I think you misunderstand. I didn't say that different levels of description were incommensurable. I said that they depended on structure and organiza...
It's a conventional way of speaking. We also speak of a person who acts independently as having a mind of their own. But before assuming dualism, we s...
Human beings and their bodies are not separate, but we predicate them differently. I have a body (as do other animals). But my body doesn't have belie...
No, it's an abstraction over concrete things. It describes something that a person does or has. That is, no person, no experience. (Which we can appre...
Yes, agreed. Thoughts, feelings, perceptions, etc., are embodied - they aren't non-physical. So the mental and physical aren't opposing duals. But nei...
Sounds good. (Goodman referenced noted.) The main issue for me is that a description of a human being at a physical level should not contradict descri...
While I agree that the red cup is external to you, and your taste buds (etc.) are internal to you, I don't think it follows that those predicates are ...
Yes, if the term mind is understood as it is used in everyday experience then it's probably fine. That is: Whereas the Cartesian considers mind as a c...
No, and I already gave a similar example here (with internal and external house walls). I'm just trying to make sense of your earlier comments which a...
You seemed to want to defend the use of internal/external and physical/non-physical qualifiers as meaningful when talking about experiences. If not, a...
Well, internal and external are useful when talking about a house (or a theater). They can refer to the internal and external walls of the house, for ...
:smile: And is sanity a controlled form of battiness? Slogans and metaphors are all good fun and might be useful to illustrate a point. But to actuall...
I'm not saying you do. That would be the Cartesian dualism model. Those predicates are inapplicable if Cartesian dualism is rejected. One might kick a...
Yes. It is the human being (a living, sentient organism) that has the capacity to think, not brains or Cartesian minds. Yes, Jaworski knows his stuff....
:up: Supposing experience to have internal and external components still implies the Cartesian theater metaphor. Say you were playing a game of footba...
Certainly the antecedents for Cartesian dualism can be found in ancient thinking. As it happens, the textbook I quoted earlier links substance dualism...
Or neither. I think the divisions themselves, as understood in their Cartesian sense, are misleading and unnecessary. They don't arise in normal commu...
To the extent it endorses a private theater conception of mind, yes. (Though it might not do so - see the third quote below.) As some support for my i...
We're trying to avoid Cartesian dualism. That's the position of positing a container mind (the Cartesian theater), and then redefining ordinary words ...
Side note: for your last few replies to me, I haven't received a notification. I'm not sure if that's on your end or mine. I'll try signing out and in...
As it happens, that was Aristotle's position. His term was ousia, which has been variously interpreted as being, thing, thinghood, and substance. Ousi...
Yes, that's just the point in distinguishing those activities from perception. You are having a dream - there's nothing being perceived, only dreamt. ...
People's experiences sometimes differ in certain situations (reflecting differences either in the environment or in their physical characteristics). A...
Yes. And such differences would be potentially discoverable as we've seen with color-blindness, etc. So color-blindness implies a kind of privacy in p...
Because you're describing your perceptions and experiences as private and inaccessible to others. That's the Cartesian theater model of perception. Or...
Yes, when we represent the world in language, we generalize and abstract from our experience in the world, not in separation from our experience. The ...
My point is that we view the world in a particular way that depends on the kind of physical and perceptual characteristics we have (in our case, as hu...
I think that with her knowledge Mary could have learned to visualize yellow before seeing it (in the world). Whether or not she would make that connec...
A perspective (or a point-of-view) is a logical precondition for making natural distinctions and observing things. Consider Alice taking a photograph ...
It's an empirical question. The conceptual point is that the natural distinctions people make (and which can potentially differ depending on the perso...
I think you meant to link to the podcast here from Oct 11, 2014. The podcast you linked to is on Conscious Thought from Jan 15, 2017 (and is 12 mins l...
Yes, I briefly discussed Dennett's Cartesian Theater metaphor here. And, of course, Dennett points out how qualia is defined to be beyond the scope of...
No. As I'm using the term, it's a logical condition. Yes, my usage here is the former. However, your alternative usage is fine as well (i.e., the resu...
Yes, I think that's true for a self-reflective sense of perspective. However I'm just using it in the sense of a reference point from which things are...
The difference is that aspiration, etc., are bodily processes or functions. Whereas a perspective is a logical condition for being able to make distin...
Yes, that's right. For the first set of examples, if a person dies, they no longer have a perspective on the world - that perspective depended on them...
Yes it happens for any object and event - which are distinguishable in human perception. Yes it can. I can point to the Sun and stars (a human percept...
It's a formal aspect of a human being perceiving the world. Their perspective is not a "thing" that has any existence separate from that human activit...
You're describing the world as a barren landscape where the human comes along and colors it in with all the qualities that make it interesting to them...
You can't reject anything if you're not a human being. But that doesn't imply subject/object dualism, which divides the human being in Cartesian terms...
Yes, tools not sullied by having any practical use in the world. Yet, as ideals, often attractive and tempting... That's it. And I think this is an in...
Cool. It relates to philosophical issues such as dualism, qualia, the hard problem, and what not. The word "red" has the same meaning in both phrases,...
Thanks for the shoutout. And a great Grice quote. Along Grice's lines, a value of the forum is that one gets to try out one's tools on a variety of in...
:up: Yet we do make the distinction in practice - see below. Yes. So that's a physical process. In the absence of light, the colors of the apples and ...
No, it's about being clear on what the usages are and how they relate to each other. When says that "All cats are grey in the dark", I understand what...
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