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I didn't. There IS an alternative. Them being a p-zombie (or, again, just a zombie since they're not a thought experiment any more). But I would soone...

Maybe, but I'd much sooner believe that people are only pretending to doubt it about themselves or that what they're doubting isn't "whether or not th...

Source I don't know how reliable that is but there. I didn't say the hard problem is explaining consciousness per se, but explaining what is the relat...

Well as long as he's not doubting that I have experiences he can do whatever he wants. But I'm more interested in how this: Addresses the hard problem...

I think both sides are talking past each other now. Qualia advocates believe that Dennett is trying to deny his own internal experience, when he is ju...

With a chair you can walk up to it to confirm whether or not it’s actually a chair as opposed to a cardboard cutout for example. With Qualia, you have...

No I asked whether or not they provide knowledge of what happens in the PC as a program using them runs. And the answer is: they don’t. Which would be...

Addition is different form adding things together. 1+1=2. Even if I place 2 rats in a room and come back a week later and find 20, 1+1 still equals 2....

Yes

But it’s worth noting that I don’t agree that it was ever intended to be used that way. So his “opposition” here is meaningless. It’s like opposing qu...

Anecdotally. Then why did he spend the first 5/6 intuition pumps on it? What do you mean? The purpose of the paper is clearly NOT to argue that this s...

Here I go I guess: His description of the “properties of qualia” are not how people use them usually. And his intuition pumps fail to address why his ...

Nothing is added to the description of the board. That is true. But it is not the goal of qualia to describe the real world but to describe how it see...

Well when: Then no. You cannot confirm stability in said qualia without referring to it. That would be like saying “We can all agree that this table i...

Where might I ask? And just to clarify Disentangling "I tasted the tea" is not done by saying "When you drink tea no tasting/experience of any sort oc...

I admit I don't understand that part. He claims that "properties of states of consciousness" exist but "a modest, innocent notion of properties of sub...

Although you call the former a "lie for children" it is still the case that whatever explanation you want to use to explain what's "really going on" c...

You don't "see qualia". "Seeing" is qualia. Though I suspect we're not talking about the same thing.

But if you assume “Truth doesn’t exist outside of this sentence and outside of things that are true by definition” then you have no issue. And this is...

I don't think this is physics specific. You can ask "Why" forever in any field and best you will get is circular logic.

What makes you think it doesn't? Until we invent a "consciousness-o-meter" we can't actually know that.

Building such a model is not the hard problem. The hard problem is: Why does sending 3 nanos of dopamine to cell number 1,234,562 in quadrent 2 you'll...

well when you define it like that then “Dying” as used in day to day life becomes “A pattern ceasing to exist” in which case you still die. We (patter...

"Red" is qualia no?

I already gave an example. You can say that waves propagate through space but you cannot say "Red" does. But I assume you want something that goes the...

Well the definition of physical has always been: Wave, Force, Or touchable thing. The experience of red is none of those as has been shown. That's why...

What's the difference?

I think if something is “absolutely true” it is not useful. For example “There cannot be a square circle” is absolutely true, but also completely obvi...

Well for one, a 700 nanometer wavelength electromangnetic wave moves through space but "red" doesn't.

Qualia is only useful to distinguish between things like "700 nanometer wavelength electromagnetic wave" and "Red". There are many things you can say ...

They don't accrue if you don't consent to the deal. But I have yet to see someone not consent to living in a society. Again, I've never seen someone r...

As I said, you owe it to become a productive member. Or to at least try to. Agreed. But "nurturing it" doesn't have to take the form of having kids. A...

Mainly that I've put too much time into this. And a couple more ways to not be an antinatalist.

Well that can easily be fixed by making it "Never say never or always except in this sentence". Pretty easy to resolve as far as paradoxes go.

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. That's all I wanted to hear. The "to me" bit. I get irritated when people claim to somehow have a hotline to...

And you knew that eventually you'd have to hold a job and make your own living as a contributing member. And I'm willing to wager you didn't protest b...

And then from those feelings we come up with beliefs that explain them and inform us on what to do in novel situations. And antinatalism is one such p...

The fact that someone can't exploit his community. If you don't have a job you will end up homeless and "safety nets" are hardly safe usually. In my o...

Not just irrelevant, I find it repulsive. I don't care how much a society wants to achieve a certain goal it shouldn't force its members to do it. Tha...

I am aware that this is your argument and I disagree with it. I think sustaining the society is a byproduct that has to come out of individual action....

And I would say procreation is one of them. It is hardly contemplated. And there are countless examples of things we do for generations that we then l...

I don't see how this makes a difference.

That's the main difference between us then. If, for example, I was unavailable and a friend of mine thought I was looking for a suit and he found a ve...

Well what's the meaning of the word "physical" at that point then? If the experience of color is not something you can hold in your hand and is not a ...

It's a bit more than that. Solipsism is the belief that you are the only thing that exists and that everything else is a piece of YOUR mind. It is a f...

Best advice here tbh

You can attack it in a pragmatic manner by saying "Sure all these people and everything else may just be in my head but I know for a fact I don't like...

Well a possible alternative would be: You exist because your parents brought you here and that's all there is to that.

That's a question you should ask shope not me. Agreed. Though I said this like 6 replies ago. Which is why I thought we were done. When you replied ag...

So being logical when it comes to ethics is a problem now? If that's what you think then I don't really value your opinion much. Why do you get to dec...