Groups have a much better chance of survival than individuals. Moral conduct by the majority is necessary for those groups to form. Therefore moral co...
:up: I would furthermore add that most disagreements about morality aren't about opinions but are factual. We have similar, if not the same moral intu...
I’m curious, what’s your view on all this? Do you think mental events cause physical change? Does the feeling of anger have some real world causal pow...
Not safe to assume both ways. Metaphysically seems possible. Actually was never seen. Despite looking for it. So good reason to think it is impossible...
What you call question begging is called "Using technical terms correctly" But you can replace every instance of "energy" with "energy in the purely p...
Yikes. When did I say that? I said an immaterial thing cannot cause material movement. The other way is fine. No, it's just that you're mistaken as us...
Your brain caused the mental event. And your brain also caused the arm to move. When was that implied? No the brain does it in pairs. The thought, and...
This is pure unadulterated handwaving. All of the properties they conserve are ONLY defined for physical things. That is literally what the laws are d...
Sure but I'm not with you in saying that mind interacts with brain. I've given you an argument for it. You've claimed it begs the question. Where does...
Where is the physicalist assumption? Lay it out. The above quote states, factually, that energy has a very specific meaning in physics. It is with tha...
Does your mind gain weight too if you don't exercise? Ridiculous. You are literally going against your own argument about why the mind is non sensible...
Your mind gains energy? :rofl: Wasn't your argument for why the mind is not sensible this: Well one of the things that it does not make sense to ask o...
No. It is not the thought that does it. Though it certainly seems to me like it is the thought that does it. My brain does everything. Including the t...
That mental event B causes brain event C. Let's say brain event C is that neurotransmitter X is pushed by some force Y. And that results in you raisin...
No? Where do I suggest that? My thinking of switching the TV channel is done by my brain. So is the switching. So is the sense that I switched due to ...
Your mind is immaterial yes? Therefore if it interacts with the brain (IE causes some movement) there would be no detectable physical source of that m...
They are consistent with the conclusion that your mind appears to interact with your brain. They are inconsistent with the conclusion that your mind i...
If you were to say "Caused by the brain" I would agree but "reside in the brain" already assumes they're physical. Or else they wouldn't "reside" anyw...
Argument? That momentum and energy are conserved? I have none, because it's not a conclusion arrived at by argument. It's a conclusion arrived at by o...
False. Minds are immaterial. I agree with that bit. I disagree with the bit that says that they interact with the brain. On the grounds that that woul...
Sure but I don't see what that has to do with anything. The emotion of love is represented differently in the brain from the concept of love. Ok.... N...
Not really. Just want to know how you use it. No we haven't which is why I'm asking. Does we have to be able to see and touch the thing for it to be "...
No. Though that's exactly what a materialist would say! But first off, what do you mean by "material substance". Because as I said all the way at the ...
So the words describe feelings correct? Not chemicals? And those cannot be the same thing. Or else we would not have made words that refer to one and ...
Whether or not these feelings/qualia are different from the chemicals correlated with them. You think they aren't. I think that's ridiculous. For one,...
Materialists would say Qualia don’t exist. Not that we don’t understand how they work. They would say that the feeling of sight or taste is an “illusi...
I have... no idea what you just said. I wasn’t arguing towards whatever that kantian point was (I don’t even understand it) I was just asking when we ...
I understand. But you said that intersubjective procedures can reveal the objective aspects of entities. I'm asking when we can know that we have succ...
At what point do we know that our inter subjective understanding has evolved to objectivity? When do we know we “got it”? We thought we solved physics...
Then you’re wrong. The experience of love is clearly different from the chemicals causing it. A point to illustrate: People came up with words like “l...
That you had to make a distinction means they're not the same thing no? Ah so there is a concept (I would use the word "feeling") separate from the ne...
Would be be what a materialist would say. My response would be: “That’s just not true”. Have you never had experiences before? I find that hard to bel...
What do you mean? If we DO have experiences, and we can communicate them well, then the experiences are isomorphisms of each other (by definition). So...
Relative molar* mass. It is how much a mole of a chemical would weigh. Then you're not a materialist. Materialists would try to say that the experienc...
I think it can be maintained but it is unhelpful. We don't need to. If we use the same words to describe the same things then who cares what we are ac...
No one is denying that. Every time "love" happens we see the same or similar brain activity (well I don't know about that but I'm assuming we do). Tha...
Maybe we're not on the same page here. "Isomorphism" is a relation of two sets. It means that all their elements are related to each other in the same...
Which is to imply that the pessimists got the "right of it". That they see the forms accurately. And that the rest of us are deluding ourselves or jus...
I'm not sure I want to start this again. I would simply just restate the whole isomorphism thing I said last time. Love can feel radically different t...
Depends on what you mean by "material". How heavy is the smell of the ocean? Or are you saying the experience doesn't exist? "Material" started out be...
The more I read you the less I understand about your position. From a glance this seems to be exactly what I think. Yet you don't like the word "Quali...
From my reading, he seemed to be fully committing to the conclusions while claiming he is not. But if he is not fully committing to the conclusions th...
Possibly. But the origins of the belief do not determine its truth value. I happen to agree with him. But the site is generally very divided on the is...
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