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Is exactly where I'd disagree with you. It just requires a definition of freedom and moral responsibility that makes any sense. The way you defined fr...

And all objects you can refer to with the word "red" do not share anything at all in your experience? Not even a vague resemblance? I find that hard t...

Whether or not you can practically predict it is different from whether or not it is fundamentally deterministic or random. I doubt any of those theor...

No they won’t they’ll just be delayed in saying blue. I did some stroop test research 1st year undergrad. It’s very rare that participants straight up...

That’s just false. No clue where you got that. Is there nothing at all similar in your experience each time you want to describe something you see as ...

Sure but epiphenomena X is the one always preceding saying red. That’s what I meant. ? If I hear “red” a hundred times I can deduce where the slice is...

And I responded to that explanation because it makes no sense. Pay attention.

Even if that were true, does adding randomness into the mix somehow make people more free?

I’m not saying there is such a distinction. I’m saying there could be. As I’ve said before, if there was such a distinction, we would never be able to...

I don’t have that presupposition. I don’t know if they’re deterministic or not. I know they’re either deterministic or random. And you define freedom ...

And in your model someone discovering something is not an outcome?

So indeterminism is enough for freedom for you? If I toss a dice and it lands on 3 did I choose 3? If we can prove that the movement of the dice was n...

For the mind to make a decision it must at least be capable of causing a physical change no? Or else "making a decision" would be completely outside t...

The question wasn't whether or not minds are reducible to brains. It was whether or not minds can cause physical changes. In other words, whether or n...

I would expect something like this from a flat earther. Surprisingly I see it a lot on the forum. People trusting the way things seem over the way thi...

a surprising number. Including me.

I think the best way to explain is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism Specifically the bit around this: "Even though these two groups "lo...

? When you hear "apple" a thousand times you tend to understand what the common element in all those utterances is. Mainly, the observation of a sweet...

By seeing how others use the words. Finding the commonality between every instance of someone saying "red". The commonality is hazy, but usable. Somet...

Their contents are ineffable and private. But the cuts aren't. The cuts are cultural, biological, and sometimes personal. In the same way that if I ha...

"The laws of conservation are false because I feel like I'm in control of my decisions" So every other physical process is completely determined by an...

Is your own brain something “else”? That’s the question. You seem like you’re treating your own brain as a stranger. So, are you proposing that you ca...

I don’t really think that’s an important question. Whether or not people can or can’t share the same pain token. Did you read what was after the “unle...

I said the same thing to Isaac. It’s not necessarily, metaphysically, and transcendentally private. Just practically so. I don’t think it’s really an ...

Was that it? Was that all you’re arguing? Then I’d agree. Though I’d add that we have no way of telling if this is what is happening or not. Even if t...

What’s the difference? How do you determine if you are “in control” or not? Does the fact that it is your brain, and that you are doing what you want ...

Which is exactly what I said. So the difference is structural. If you put a strawberry, a green leaf and a red apple next to each other Richard would ...

That we use the same words. When we both call something "red" that's good reason to believe we have cut up our experiences similarly. Or else one of u...

Probably.

As I understand it, your argument is that there is no X and Y. Because X and Y are the dreaded qualia. Or sets of them. Idk I can't tell what you're s...

No, we don't. What we know is that which lightwave hits your retina determines the set of "similar experiences" to which your experience will belong. ...

Does that matter? Similar enough to be called "red". But if I had to answer, similar in terms of content I guess. There is something similar about see...

X is the set of experiences that are similar enough to be called "red" by me. Y is the set of experiences that are similar enough to be called "red" b...

And if they called it purple? Or if it was the middle of the day? Sure. But now what is your issue with my argument? If I changed it to: Does that sat...

But there is clearly a range no? If I call the sky red I'd be incorrect. Outright. Or do you think someone calling the sky red is not wrong? But you w...

:brow: So what are you saying? Your critique of my argument was: So I assumed that you meant.... you know..... that experiences of red have nothing in...

That if there is absolutely nothing in common in our experiences of colors, you'd expect people to guess randomly. On what basis are they choosing a w...

Good. Then I know you’re not being biased. Well, before the doors were taken off, you had no ability to leave. IE, determinism. After they were taken ...

Well if disproving determinism suffices for you you can go into quantum physics. There are events that are truly random there. The world is not determ...

So randomness suffices for you? If you roll a dice and get 3, did you choose to get 3? Assuming the dice is actually fully random.

Sort of. No, I’m not that precise. But I know passing them the blue cup is wrong. So, again: Again, you haven’t answered my question. When you see an ...

well you first have to define your terms. If you were predetermined to do something and so did it, is that free will? If your decision was entirely ra...

There is a correct answer to “What color is this” more often than not. How do people answer the question if they haven’t heard the answer before? How ...

You make it sound like the two explanations are contradictory. As for what evidence: The fact that we have never seen the mind causing any physical ch...

You want to disprove that free will exists? Or disprove that it doesn’t exist?

I’ll take that as “is”. Otherwise you’re just being non committal. Then how can people use the correct word when asked what color something is when th...

How could you tell? According to you the only thing common to experiences of red is the use of the word “red”. So if everyone calls the sky red the sk...

Fair enough. Still: