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:chin: In this case your needs clearly extend to the thief no? You need the thief to stop. Self preservation implies a party you’re preserving yoursel...

But one often has a pretty reasonable estimate of how much harm they'll suffer vs how much harm they'll inflict by doing an action. In some cases it's...

If nothing else just reply to the last paragraph. And my main point is that exact paragraph but replace “surprise party” with “life”. You disagree wit...

No it wouldn't. One could simply treat one's own needs as just as valuable or less valuable as those of others. So don't do something to others that i...

For those. And my main argument is: Your position is inconsistent for you think that OB applies only to life and not surprise parties because of some ...

Robber to unvaccinated. Robber wants money without a job, so he steals, and doesn’t care that it harms others. An unvaccinated person is too scared of...

What makes you think this isn’t what the surprise party recipient is doing? Cherry picking good experiences. Why do you trust he’s reporting accuratel...

You can’t seem to understand metaphors. And you also say shit like: I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a troll

Yes. In that you do whatever you want without thinking about others. Someone robbing you does it because they don’t want to get a job and don’t care w...

An air conditioner. A fan.

Then by what standards shall he be judged if not by humanist standards? There is no standards (that we can know about) outside human standards (by def...

We don’t develop rules, knowledge, lexicons and representations?

Right… but I’m pretty sure you would. You’re telling me if you got COVID you would simply lie down and say “Ah, well, time to accept my fate”? Yea. Th...

“I know I’m a hypocrite and irrational. You can be mad at me but I won’t do anything about it” Typical anti-vaxer What’s the point of discussing anyth...

Ah, so the longer the period, supposedly the less accurate the predictions. Where is your evidence for this? You can't just claim it out of the blue. ...

Ok.

Yes it is. Your argument is that since some animals eat us, this justifies us eating all animals. Makes no sense. No. Some animals eat humans. This do...

No, what’s being advocated for is eating animals that don’t harm us because there exist animals that do. More like “That Asian just shot a man so this...

You should at least attempt to figure it out yourself, but if you want me to spell it out for you: Discriminating against a group for the actions of i...

You would (hopefully) tell that person they’re wrong. What would you say to them if they asked you to unpack? That’s what I would say to you.

Venus fly traps don't eat us. The plants we eat never eat us. Not the ones we eat. We eat herbavoirs. Who would not eat humans. We explicitly avoid ea...

But you think it applies to one and not the other. Why? That's the question I'm asking you. You trust people's reports when it comes to surprise parti...

You sure? That would make life not an imposition...... But you can't tell beforehand if it's an imposition or not. So now what? Is it wrong to do? You...

It is assumed that you don't similar to how you don't know if your child will hate life or love it. Also similarly, most people like life, and surpris...

Well yes, according to you: So yes, sometimes impositions of this nature are ok. It depends on whether or not the options given are "bad enough". This...

I’m not sure either. Who I was referring to is experts in ethics. So, give an example of a time period where the majority of people thought something ...

Even when the majority is among professionals that suffer much less from these biases? Sounds like what an antivaxer or flat earther would say. But th...

For some reason I had a feeling you’d come here to jab without addressing the OP. Who’s on a “quest” to attack who again? I’m starting to think maybe ...

Sure. But I doubt professional philosophers have much of that bias. Why is it that even out of the people that don’t have kids ANs are still a minorit...

See I’d respect that as a way of bowing out. Not “Haha the Isaac Khaled complex, they’re colluding” bullshit. It’s annoying for me to write a detailed...

Sure. But also that it’s better not to do any bad that you have to make up for in the first place

What about the infinite evil of putting people in hell? And besides, if God was omnibenevolent, there wouldn’t be any negative numbers at all.

No I write this to challenge your views. Clearly however, you don't want that. Which makes me question why you start threads in the first place. Do yo...

Give an example of such an X. Slavery? The slaves didn’t think it was right. Gender inequality? Women didn’t think it was right. Racial discrimination...

Copy paste them to a word document and export it to PDF. You can even keep the exact look if you are using windows. Type "snip" into the search bar an...

Same applies to working out. It produces a lot of pain (If you’re doing it right) but people still do it. Even when they could easily be in a state wh...

You already know my position on this but: No to all but the second (yes he’s being exploitative, which isn’t a problem when the person getting exploit...

Right, that’s what I’m saying. But you claim that the person who thinks life is not too much of an imposition is wrong. What is your justification? I ...

I legitimately don’t understand what you’re saying here. So unlike in the OP, it’s not that doing something on someone else’s behalf when most people ...

And no one suffers lack of surprise parties, by definition. Every gift can be a burden. That's the point of the example. Maybe they really didn't want...

But in the OP you say: Again, it doesn’t have to be the only consideration. No they can’t. Not consistently anyways. Unless you believe that every ins...

The asymmetry is that: Having children: Chance of harm (bad), chance of pleasure (good) Not having children: No harm (good), No pleasure (not bad) I d...

Fair enough. I took a step further and thought you said this to argue “And so having children is justified”. Not an AN anymore but that line doesn’t w...

I'm not AN anymore but I still hate this argument. Suppose there was a parent that wanted to have a disabled child and so requested that his doctor ge...

That doesn’t follow. It doesn’t have to be the only relevant consideration. Your search for a single simple statement that sums up all of morality is ...

Sounds like something you should be asking physicists.

No they aren’t? If you’re wrong about something. So for instance “I know England is gonna win tomorrow”. England loses. Now I say, “I thought I knew E...

Still no answer? Ok. And no I’m not a diehard utilitarian and I don’t know how you could have reached that conclusion. But I’m not interested in conti...

You’re not addressing what he said. Is false. There’s some subjectivity to it but not much. That much is known. And people want to change this to at l...

Don’t conflate. I’ve given due respect about how you think despite thinking it’s completely crazy. I just never asked how you feel about the matter. M...