Cheshire

That's fair, I wanted to give your replies more consideration, so I just replied to the aspects I had already thought through. I'll return in kind.

Not according to this novelty, If you ever prove that things are not subject to error you have to prove that something is subject error. Specifically,...

It's a bit of straw-man isn't it? If an individual told me something absurd I wouldn't confuse it with the subject of knowledge. We have an ideal conc...

If the only knowledge that can be had in practice is 'subjective knowledge' then what is the point of calling it subjective, beyond differentiating it...

My definition....

I get it, I just don't thinks its correct. It's the "later on..." part that bothers me because there's always a "later on..we find out..." about one t...

If I recall it wasn't simply a matter of knowledge being subject to time, but rather a case where JTB criteria was met but the matter still found to n...

Well, shouldn't JTB be able to meet it's own criteria? If you can't believe it, then it isn't knowledge right?

Well, that is excellent news. Tell me, do you believe JTB is the best description for knowledge in a non-general sense? I know you can justify it, but...

I'm not so much interested as how its used 'in language', but rather how it's used in reality. I know exactly zero people that actually consider an id...

Gladly, if you'll set out the difference between a belief of knowledge and knowledge.

Oh, I would say it was knowledge and had since been falsified. It doesn't make sense to have falsified knowledge. Knowledge intends to be true. I thou...

Did you mean to say this the way you said it?

Compelling.

It has to be arguable, but doesn't have to have been argued?

I'm accounting for the beliefs that have been conflated with truth. I acknowledge conflation is done in error, but because it persist it should be con...

Then why would we to define our products in such an ideal sense and still expect they correspond to the facts? If knowledge is always true, then how i...

It goes without saying I thought? It's absurd to claim one's beliefs change the truth the of the matter. I understand how it could be read that way, b...

Don't we? Every time I say something is true is just because I believe it is true. Otherwise, I'm not properly truthing.

I'm not really reading Janus quite the same way. If we count 1000 things as true, we'll probably discover some amount were actually not true at a poin...

that's got to be some type of record. Well played sir.

Really? I can understand "I guessed your name was John and it wasn't", but if you thought you knew then, you must have had some reason; then it makes ...

Because we cannot tell the difference between what we actually know and what we think we know until it's proven wrong.

It's always the case "that sometimes....."

I'm arguing that without the certainity of what is true or false apart from your "thinking" it's true or false we're left with a description of knowle...

Doesn't this beg the question against your position? I can suppose verification would show something hasn't been proven false, so in that light it wou...

Which I'm claiming is always going to be the case, so why not just acknowledge that some knowledge will eventually be proven wrong.

I think knowledge intends the success of being correct, but realistically it turns out to be rational conjecture that hasn't been proven wrong yet. So...

You have never known something and then later found out it was incorrect?

I agree , the theory of JTB is consistent within itself. However, I think I can maintain that it is always the case some of our ideas will be believed...

I greatly appreciate the charitable read and I agree. So long as JTB isn't meant to actually describe the real world and is only maintained for the pu...

Is some one arguing that verifying an idea makes the idea true? Wouldn't that be called truthing? I submit that truthing is not a word.

I really enjoy this argument, but often 'not free will' rests their case on an unreasonable definition. Specifically, they maintain any 'will' that is...