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Yes, agreed, that's why I said: In essence, the larger the corporation, the heavier the fall. If financial well-being is their concern, a major blow t...

Sure, but why are you using this thread for this? Why not start your own thread about morality? This discussion is about this method, so the time spen...

As for the marking system, the system itself should be independent as a standard. Google should implement it with search results, but the standardized...

I agree about the concept of trust. Not really, but I trust corporate image and Google is actually in the business of trust. Their lifeblood is that w...

Not sure how you conclude what I wrote into that. But in terms of elections, first, a two-party election that forces Republicans to vote for a person ...

But we are discussing ethical philosophy. Just like scientific theory doesn't have the same definition as theory in common tongue, a moral act or defi...

I think it always will be, which is why the only thing we can decide on, in order to hack the It-Ought problem (Hume), is to find the Is in common bas...

That's because the argument is a work in progress, as I state in the last sentence of the OP. The discussion following throughout is part of the proce...

Just to be clear, my idea of scientific method or mindset is about borrowing the method into a framework of though at any given moral dilemma. So my t...

Sure, but it would be a flawed foundation for morals based on opinion and tradition instead of universal. This is why a method that has a foundation t...

If people want to change the system they need to have someone to change the system. Bernie Sanders stance on social democracy would definitely have sh...

This is the basics I try to build past. Because moral theories focus on how to act more than how to figure out how to act. I try to take a step back i...

Because when framing the argument through my moral theory, they are acting immoral and have ignored other types of ways to prosper that don't require ...

I tell them to stop since they are harming 5% of humanity and do not have a rational argument built upon the foundation of not harming 5% of humanity....

This is the tricky one, I agree. The foundation is the "Asimov law of robots" for this argument, to prevent the rational method going bonkers. Virtue ...

How do they come to the conclusion that enslaving the 5% follows the framework of avoiding harm to humanity? It harms 5% of humanity, it might harm fu...

I see your point about virtue ethics, but that has more to do with replicating those with virtue to be good, not to use a method of thinking and reaso...

Here's a question about the disinfectant-gate. Even if he doesn't directly tell people to drink bleach, by some reports people have followed his reaso...

This is the foundation for my thinking. That we cannot find what is good or bad moral acts. So how can we be morally good? We can be so by having a mi...

Are there any choices that aren't fundamentally moral choices? The decision to choose milk in coffee instead of plain coffee might not seem moral, but...

I'm not sure you have carefully read my reasoning in this thread, there are a lot of things mentioned in the responses to others that further explains...

No, they don't, but the method scientists use are focused on bypassing biases and perception to arrive at truths outside of the human mind. If such a ...

Thank you :) And yes, it's obvious when reading comments that there's more work to be done on this. As I see it, we can definitely find some truths ab...

As per the discussion that followed with DingoJones, I'm aware of the problems in my premises for this part of the argument, so I'm reworking this (I ...

Yes, but it is good for the group if I defend the group (more people, i.e the family and possibly other families after mine). Also by proxy-choice if ...

If the inductional thinking of the situation leads to the best option to kill the killer and that the killer doesn't have any justification for that k...

I see your point and I agree that there are problems with viewing scientists as morally good, but that's not really the direction I'm coming from. It'...

Agreed. In a sense, yes, but the mind/body harm is only a springboard towards how to tackle the situation. So, we can first assess that because we hav...

I have not but am familiar with his thinking. The problem is that he tries to expand the idea of the objective to parts that are questionable (and he'...

Central claim to that part of the argument, yes. As what is good for the individual will eventually also be good for the group. What is good for the m...

In a civilized society based in democracy, voting for stability and competence is a priority over partisan ideologies. Bad decisions out of ideologica...

By objectively valuable I mean things that do not have to do with preferences but necessities. The value of things that reduce harm and suffering whil...

The answer to this might be found in the library of babel? https://libraryofbabel.info/

Thanks for the replies. Makes sense. What if I change to "objectively valuable"? Seems that within a context of objectively valuable for one the benef...

This is exactly the kind of dilemmas that businesses in Sweden are facing today. They don't have orders to lock down and send home employees, but they...

I agree. But I don't know if scientific views always win out. I think that in order for scientific views to win out, it needs to be repeated and repea...

I think it's a delicate balancing act. People who can't see more than five days ahead scream of quarantining everything in society, shutting down ever...

The biggest problem with the balancing act of keeping the populus calm and at the same time informed is that media is doing such a poor job. This is t...

Yes, but I'm not defending or condemning the current approach to the national handling of the crisis, because at the moment there are far too many unk...

I agree that action is still better than inaction. However, problems arise when the mass influences decision making and the mass form their base of kn...

We have to be careful when speaking about different nation strategies so that we don't just interpret good or bad based on a statistical number that d...

In what context do you conclude people to not be the same? If we are talking about biology and psychology, then yes, people are very different between...

That's just my point; the characteristics of gold is only through a set of atoms, not one single atom. Even in gas form, it's the group of atoms which...

So your counter argument now is that I should give up? Did you try understanding what I'm aiming for here? What I wrote also applies to an iron atom. ...

Can you add properties like viscosity, gas, solid state to one water molecule? Can you hold it, drink it? Is the air essentially water since we have h...

Even if an iron atom is an element, it's still a certain group of neutrons, protons and electrons which we designate the definition of iron. But I thi...

I think the philosophy-infused series "The Good Place" has a point about this as well.

Schrödinger's cat is dead.

Population growth, larger groups than 12 people at a time, politics for larger societies, global scale politics, religious-based laws etc. I could mak...

A person without MS can still be more of an expert, otherwise, you wouldn't have experts in the medical field researching it. In my case, however, I w...