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Harman posits a dualism of a hidden reality of the object and one of their relations with other entities. The hidden substance he identifies as "subst...
May 12, 2023 at 22:40
Oh yes, I think I agree with this, but perhaps this choice of words will be explained as I believe I've heard it before in relation to Whitehead.
May 12, 2023 at 22:19
I guess I meant, "overused".. used to refer to too many vaguely related but not quite necessarily related things. Not sure what to make of this. What ...
May 12, 2023 at 22:06
Can you explain that more about why it cannot be the Real Object?
May 12, 2023 at 22:03
Sure, but the controversial element is whether "roundness" is a thing outside that concept. In this theory, it is, as long as two objects have some "s...
May 12, 2023 at 22:01
Not quite. Rather, I was trying to show that specific instances (of objects) have their own form of interaction that manifests roundness in a way that...
May 12, 2023 at 04:21
But let's move on further. @"Moliere", I like your ideas, but you jumped ahead a bit. I want to read this page by page to get all the analysis from it...
May 12, 2023 at 04:04
The view from here and the view from nowhere.
May 12, 2023 at 03:42
So this started from a discussion I had with @"RussellA" in the Chomsky thread. The dialogue is below. Basically, we were originally discussing how co...
May 12, 2023 at 03:39
Yeah I guess, can they be discussed in reference to themselves without it being how humans frame the objects. It seems to be what SR and Harman in par...
May 12, 2023 at 03:18
Perhaps it’s the capacity for quick symbolic reference and syntactic generation, not necessarily content. E language can’t be acquired but through a b...
May 11, 2023 at 02:31
This overlooks the person themselves for some abstract notion ("I am fond of life, so I shall burden someone else. Prior to X time, there was no perso...
May 11, 2023 at 01:41
So you are red herring here. I asked to go back to my arguments presenting what unnecessary means. You skipped that it appears. https://thephilosophyf...
May 10, 2023 at 17:28
I laid out my definitions of all this. So if you don’t think the argument apt, you’d have to reference where and why. Otherwise, it is you gesticulati...
May 10, 2023 at 10:43
The topic is whether or not it is moral to unnecessarily burden someone. The contingencies don't get to be, "I can burden someone if I myself also bea...
May 10, 2023 at 03:29
I think this can be answered in various ways, one of them referring back to Harman's Object-Oriented Ontology. Let's start a different thread on this ...
May 09, 2023 at 14:19
It is not known. It is manifested in the interaction of ball with ground. It doesn’t need to be apprehended. The object does as it does in relation to...
May 09, 2023 at 13:26
But that’s what I’m saying, it doesn’t matter how it is labeled- an object manifested the property of rolling by its action with other objects. It may...
May 09, 2023 at 12:19
But some philosophy points not to upward dialectic of Man but of the inherent perennial suffering nature of existence. See: Schopenhauer (suffering Wi...
May 09, 2023 at 12:12
It isn’t judged, it is an event. Object rolls down a hill. The object interacts with the ground in the way round objects act. It’s manifest in how the...
May 09, 2023 at 11:50
Wouldn’t degrees of roundness suffice? Whatever relations that interact with that object will interact with it in relation to the round-like feature o...
May 08, 2023 at 19:52
A utilitarian might look to Hare's "two-level weak rule utilitarianism". That is to say, follow the general rule, but make exceptions for instances wh...
May 08, 2023 at 00:44
Yes, I am somewhat familiar in passing with Lakoff's idea of metaphor. Something to think about for sure! I'd have to look to see how deep the studies...
May 08, 2023 at 00:12
Oh I get it and basically agree, but I present it because it is a common defense in arguments about morality to couch one's own morals with ad populum...
May 07, 2023 at 23:07
Ok, but this thread is about using the appeals to popularity as an indicator of whether something is a moral intuition: “X is a moral intuition becaus...
May 07, 2023 at 16:24
Really good questions! I think this is a matter of just more empirical studies on cross-cultural societies and psychological experiments. However, int...
May 07, 2023 at 16:21
Conventional morality, if taken to mean "what most people believe" can be a form of social control in that it can be used to shut down arguments becau...
May 07, 2023 at 16:00
It's hard to really. I think a lot of this comes down to thinking in terms of armchair evolutionary psychology. We think that if a particular belief a...
May 07, 2023 at 15:42
@"NOS4A2" :up: I think this is the strongest argument for many people, because it is a prevalent belief (in everyday ethics, not politics) to think in...
May 07, 2023 at 15:21
Metaphor? Can you explain? Do you mean simply that it is an ambiguous concept (ironically) :smile:? Yeah, it is tricky defining concepts. One can argu...
May 07, 2023 at 14:58
:up: Yes, I just think it goes back to what counts as a "concept". Are primitive concepts concepts, or are they just primitive epistemological tools? ...
May 07, 2023 at 14:49
From that SEP article, the reference to Quine " Rather, there is simply no such thing as that to which our words refer." Is pretty much my own encapsu...
May 07, 2023 at 14:22
Yeah, the inferotemporal (IT) cortex has been demonstrated to be linked to object recognition (though the feature of "what" is being recognized to dis...
May 07, 2023 at 14:04
So you are doing your own motte-and-bailey here. You cannot explain to me what my understanding of Buddhism is so you provide vague notions of "going ...
May 07, 2023 at 13:45
Agreed as far as importance. Not sure if intended name has any real meaning if no one uses it. Not sure how causal link theory would respond other tha...
May 07, 2023 at 01:05
Indeed, if a name is stated and no one else knows it’s referent, not sure. It’s still is a rigid designator I guess but weakly rigid. Ha
May 07, 2023 at 00:44
A mistake that’s apt for post on meaning and reference.
May 07, 2023 at 00:42
I think I agree. What does TOW mean? Theory of Worlds? Haha oh you mean two I think. In that case I agree.
May 07, 2023 at 00:33
Yeah. Something about baptizing an object provides a causal link between name and object. You don’t need a description, just this link to make the nam...
May 07, 2023 at 00:22
Agreed here but… Though I agree often a description is needed to differentiate people with same name, that the name is referring to that particular pe...
May 07, 2023 at 00:10
I do think there is a case for rigid designators for specific objects and entities though. There is a causal link of a name and a person that transfer...
May 06, 2023 at 23:52
Yes these are points I was trying to present between the difference of the statement X is not not X and bachelors are unmarried males. One is conventi...
May 06, 2023 at 23:38
Not sure what you’re getting at. Suffering and death doesn’t occur if not born. Again doesn’t matter how you define that. It’s slowly moving the argum...
May 06, 2023 at 23:29
Being born is the imposition. Doesn’t matter how you define it’s origin.
May 06, 2023 at 23:18
Red herring. The argument doesn’t revolve around when the person is said to exist, just that it occurs.
May 06, 2023 at 23:16
I think you'd like Tomasello's view here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IrwGZpDQ4&t=137s
May 06, 2023 at 22:05
Also, mind you, to not throw stones in glass houses. Many people are pretty disgusted with views like Marxism. I've written pretty extensively about t...
May 06, 2023 at 21:50
Somewhere between 1 and 2.
May 06, 2023 at 21:34
It’s like that only if that situation is brought about, no? I’m not a fan of is making a contingency into an inevitability. Can’t one both provide the...
May 06, 2023 at 21:19