As an interesting tie-in, look at what Josephus says about James (with the caveat that the label, "the Christ" was probably a later Church interpolati...
Actually this is the original video. The other one had some dude giving his interpretation of Tabor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ97erL1gc&t=686...
If Nazarenes and Ebionites are the same, then yes. If they are slightly different, then more like the Ebionites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionit...
I'm not sure what to make of this, but I can provide you a comment I made: So just "knowing" that your evaluations are "not the world itself", doesn't...
Yes agree on the Jesus layer and the Paul layer. I laid out my view earlier that Jesus seems to be a mix of Pharisaic (specifically Hillelite) and Ess...
Acts is propaganda apologetics for Paul.. trying to make it seem like his synthesis fit neatly into the original group. Galatians overrides Acts in te...
Yes his general evaluation was correct, even if one does not agree with the architectonics of his Kantian, neo-neoplatonist metaphysics. As I said in ...
Not quite sure what you indicating here but to break it down... I see gnostics as a tangent, not a descendent of the original Jesus movement. I see th...
There may be historical elements. The parts that align with Q are probably more corroborated. However, it is pretty standard to regard the Gospel of T...
It's not that controversial. At this point it might even be the norm to assume that. He just falls most naturally in that group. The emphasis on the K...
Many historians make the important distinction between Pilate's "Gerousia" and the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin at this point was most likely stripped of ...
Yes, and of course, this will open up the conversation we had previously about what Schopenhauer meant in the idea that the ascetic "overcomes" and th...
Yeah so basically the idealism aspect... whether Eastern or not, is pretty denounced by the materialism/naturalism of analytics like Russel et al. Als...
Do you want to explain what you mean? Hereabouts in this forum, most people probably don't like his metaphysics (idealism, and in my opinion, a sort o...
@"Wayfarer" I think Schopenhauer best encapsulates the inherent nature of suffering with this quote: He makes an interesting distinction between posit...
This is even more perplexing then. Whence objects? Why propose them other than the circular reasoning that it is needed to support a theory of objects...
But then why even bring up "Substance of the world" in relation to objects? This puts it in the metaphysical camp, not simply "logical object". Which ...
I'm sorry, none of this makes much sense and the only way to make sense of it is to "reach beyond what Wittgenstein provides" (to borrow your phrasing...
What's the point of "objects" for Wittgenstein, if he already has "atomic facts" as the primary constituents of his language? "Objects" indicates a me...
You tried? Which are....??? Why would that be the case being that we don't have any idea what objects are other then they are "simples"? Why would it ...
Ah yes the old, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HIM game. I could also write some stuff and then say that you just don’t understand it and continually do it so th...
Wittenstein is not a god to me he could be wrong. Schopenhauer could be wrong can could be wrong. All of them could be wrong. He’s trying to say that ...
How would this be different thank Kant or Plato for that matter? One main difference is he’s using language parsing to explain epistemology. That’s li...
And what about scientific ideas like "evolution" that require clues from nature, and are not "states of affairs" of the world, but a combining of phen...
Again, these distinctions between "concept", "formal concept", and "pseudo-concept", I know come from the broader analytic hay-making of only looking ...
Sure, but then, why make a theory that limits language thus in such a way with how he treats language, objects, concepts, propositions, etc.? Don't th...
Even this on the face of it seems odd to call a "pseudo-concept". Why can't it just be a concept that represents possibilities of states of affairs? A...
So is this illustration supposed to be showing a potential "theory" of cognition for words associated with objects? If so this itself would be an illu...
Curious your thoughts on this part: I am basically challenging Wittgenstein's project in Tractatus as the limits of language being actually "limits" t...
I think he might say something like, "1 + 1 =2" might be non-sense if it doesn't have a state of affairs in the world that it is discussing that can b...
And sure, why should a philosopher NOT consult past philosophers who were discussing similar themes :roll:. Let's reinvent the wheel! He cared about t...
@"RussellA" Right, and that makes no sense to me to break that apart from the notion of "formal concepts". Being this is his own system, he can do wha...
I am unsure what you are saying here. I don't see how a mathematical statement like "1 + 1 = 2" is NOT a formal concept, UNLESS it was about a "state ...
Yes, but Kant would simply classify it as analytic a priori. It is a truth that can be grasped through purely reasoning and not experience (equivalent...
Thus, it seems to be the case for Witt’s theory, 1 + 1 = 2 is formal as it is not a state of affairs per se, but a description of a category of sets t...
I think Wittgenstein is saying that an "object" like the number 1 has a sense if it is an object or a description. So, "There is one horse". Or "Look,...
If it makes it clearer I mean that they accepted the very apparent notion that Abraham had fidelity in his faith. In a way, I don't either. He's tryin...
Somewhere in the post-WW2, perhaps really the 70s, the Republican party started gaining the favor of Southern and rural Evangelical Christians. So the...
Which is to say pretty much what I said.. The Pharisees fall squarely under the Second Temple period, and the Mishnaic and Talmudic periods fall right...
This. I am not saying the myths themselves, and variations of them in previous forms didn't exist, but ones with a cohesive narrative and historical b...
Thank you for the nice words. :smile:. When you say, "Those men", you mean the men in the story or the men who wrote it? If it was the men who wrote i...
@"Banno" @"Leontiskos" But even the Pharisees and their intellectual descendants, the Rabbis of the Mishnaic and Talmudic periods would have more-or-l...
So what is this debate about? That was the question at hand.. Is this about obedience? As here: He took this completely out of context, and even added...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshat There is nothing in the text or commentaries contradicting the basic text’s meaning which is Abraham was obedie...
Why would I apply a more open interpretation when most likely, at the time, it was precisely the literal one in the text which was trying to be convey...
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