But we all know this distinction. We didn't need Tractatus to tell us this.. in fact, Kant did an excellent job spelling out the differences in possib...
Read the article. Arafat got what he wanted.. The right of return, other than small numbers and compensation or some combination, was not going to hap...
Considering the historical precedent of Jewish death in Europe, Western backing of a Jewish state would seem part of a post-WW2 reality.. In whatever ...
The 2000 one.. where 92% of land was contiguous. It was the best deal they could get, and the best Arafat could say was it didn't include right of ret...
Yes some things are non-starters. If the religious right demanded that all Jews have right of return to their ancient homeland of Judea and Samaria yo...
That doesn't make it "nonsense" though. It doesn't make it any less legitimate to "philosophize" about. It is arbitrarily marking out what philosophy ...
That wasn't really the thought process before 67 or in 48, so yeah... Right of return is off the table. It's a non-starter and he hung his hat mainly ...
I'm not sure if it's the philosopher or the adherents but Wittgenstein's whole Tractatus is to prove that some philosophical writing is nonsense.. so ...
That's fine.. It's up to the writer to then explain the historical context and use of the concept... But Kant TALKED about (at the least) epistemology...
No, what I meant was he was writing for a very specific set of philosophers, who more-or-less held views regarding "nonsense" and things outside the s...
I would think a philosophical position would be more than simply having the acceptance of one's social circle.. What makes them then have "sense" in l...
No I am not being argumentative, but I am saying it is precisely justification for "why science/empirical" as the definition that is not explained. Th...
But you must admit, with Arafat and Abbas, there is more than a bit of gaslighting with saying "two state solution" but not making the hard decisions ...
I am trying to understand your own paradoxes here.. You seem to agree that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had the right to be put in a position of to...
Reality for Schopenhauer, if it's based on Kant's framework, can never be "known" except the appearance of a thing on our cognitive apparatus...Schope...
@"ENOAH" @"Wayfarer", You might enjoy this. It's an old paper (1911), but its intro condenses Schopenhauer's ideas well in a few paragraphs: https://w...
Ok, so the supposedly "open doors" of Wittgenstein is quite closed in your mind in terms of imaginative possibilities for reality... No, again here yo...
Sure, and I can use the term a different way.. Exactly! You start with a premise you get a conclusion. What is to say you cannot use a different premi...
Contra whom? Not Hume.. ha.. but really. You know where this is going... By what authority can you limit sense versus nonsense? What standards... Who ...
What does this even "mean"? And I'm being serious. Can you explain, and not cutsey-koan "show" me.. I indeed ask you to just tell me what you meant th...
Right, good quote.. So can you see where the implication I am going with this is? I am talking about Wittgenstein and not directly stating something i...
I'm going to not go out on a limb here and defend .. Where as Socrates directly addressed pertinent issues of ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology, W...
Why are you making this a "one or the other" scenario? Some of philosophy is to critique a position, and some is to construct it. However, I am just s...
Do you realize why both the Tractatus and the PI come off as infinitely arrogant? And if you cannot answer, then I ask you to So I am not going to exp...
Agreed I just want you to juxtapose that with this: It seems here that Nazis and Imperial Japan had it coming, even though Japan only killed 2,403 peo...
Amounts to the same thing. It’s supposed to lead to something or not. Plato for example took to constructing an answer. If it leads nowhere I don’t se...
Ok, so what are you pointing out? I see a bird..Isn't it lovely? And... Right, but my argument still stands, and just replace it with Maieutics, if th...
Fair enough.. I felt this was just a more theoretical arm of the Israel thread.. one which I am more apt to want to participate in rather than emotion...
This to me is wildly inaccurate to the goings-on in Israel.. especially since over half the population are Middle Eastern Jews.. But also, if that wer...
Anecdotally, I am sure that is true. The history doesn't bare that out. You can try to dictate that the story goes.. "Israel wants the West Bank and t...
Presumably you are making a point about Socrates and Wittgenstein contra other philosophers, but I am not sure what it is.. There is mental floss and ...
Israel simply needs to go back to the table and offer a solution and stop supporting right-wing agendas in the name of security. At the same time, Ham...
We don't know exactly what Socrates positions are, because we cannot easily split Plato from Socrates. How do we know that Socrates was JUST a dialect...
Well, we have a disagreement then on legitimate forms of discourse. If I give you a premise with little reasoning or evidence to back it up, you can r...
So my point was to establish several things here... First off, what are we admitting to, when we say that (at least some) wars can be legitimate? I ke...
:up: Indeed Lincoln was prescient in more than one ways.. A statesman is supposed to put country above politics... A mere politician puts himself or a...
I meant by that, in a sort of Kantian way, you are completely undermining what it means to be a close relation with someone, if you treat them JUST as...
We can go over each speech, but this one gives a good gist of Lincoln's general position (this is really against the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, but ...
But being at a state of war means what to you? Again, shall I post that fantasy Rambo ideal of war being in some remote jungle whereby an elite team/i...
No, I meant by that, in a sort of Kantian way, you are completely undermining what it means to be a close relation with someone, if you treat them JUS...
No you misinterpreted what I meant then.. Let's replace Hamas with Nazis if that helps you be more unbiased about it.. If Nazis don't think that a fre...
Yes wars can be brutal, and civil wars especially. But I'm interested in your response to the rest of my last post: Now you might say, that wasn't a c...
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