At the end of the day, ethics has no efficacy without human emotional response. If one cannot be convinced that ending suffering is the basis of ethic...
As far as "mass euthanasia", philosophical pessimism does not entail forced pro-mortalism. If anything, these utilitarian-only arguments are against m...
Interesting conclusion though. What I like is the equation with "rationality" as if that is the only way things must go.. But really then economic sup...
Ok, so I originally called it greed, and was chastised for it. Others gloss it over as "rational". I think that is a cute way of putting it, but paper...
But what is the practically "valid" reason? What makes something "valid"? Against whose criteria? Why is that criteria the correct or only way it shou...
Ah, you just used that word. I requested you use other words as that has no meaning to me here. As I stated, this word can simply be used as a decisio...
Well, now you are going back passed it. I want to stick with the decisions to raise prices. That is a micro-decision made at an individual level. It i...
I'm not puzzled. I'm giving a theory behind WHY the prices go up. You cannot just say low supply and high demand. Actual human DECISIONS make these th...
Yes, but what actually causes the raising of prices? That's what my OP was trying to get at. Price increases come from a supplier trying to make more ...
Well, one and two, seem almost the same to me, but maybe you can explain. I thought inflation was price increases on a large scale. My point was what ...
So the price wasn't good enough earlier before the high demand? Again, it is all micro-decisions. Costs don't go up for no reason. Never implied we sh...
Yes they can bid on prices.. but um, how about first come, first serve? All I'm saying is NOTHING has to go down the way that economic models say it d...
I'm sorry, both you and @"Shawn" I believe wrong on this one. There are a bunch of weasle words in here "reason adequately" and "derived from feeling"...
This is basically what I am talking about.. So what does this mean "market mechanisms kicks in and prices rise"? Suppliers raise the prices to invest ...
This comes out of an argument whereby the person was against the government spending because, he claimed, it would cause inflation. That just got me t...
But we are on a philosophy forum and that would assume theories about human life, including pessimistic ones are fair game. If we were waiting in line...
I'm not saying they are not elastic. I'm not sure where you're getting that. I'm saying that more demand increases prices.. We know that.. but why? Su...
Keynesian theory is always looking for where things don't actually clear.. sticky wages, uneven inflation, etc. This is where governments can step in ...
So you hit on something that Keynesians might say.. that inflation is not all at once but from only a few sectors thus not raising all prices. Classic...
Well, actually that's my point kind of. Inflation is simply collective decisions over time of micro-decisions that are based on suppliers trying to ma...
It's not perfect knowledge.. If you give people $1200 and they spend it on consumer goods.. those companies start perceiving an increase in demand. Th...
All the companies would raise their prices.. this is why I said micro-decisions affect the whole thing.. all companies will eventually raise prices wi...
No that's not a monopoly, that is increasing prices. Any business owner can do that. No you can have any type of company raise prices if they perceive...
Um, what do you call it when someone raises prices on a customer because he can make a better buck, yet still has plenty for a good standard of living...
I think of it as an aesthetic understanding of the world. It is similar to Buddhism in the way that the world is seen as a sort of striving but for no...
I never said you had to deny pleasure in the moment to go all contemplative if you didn't want to. Rather, it is just an overall understanding. I unde...
I don't think we can say one way or another about happiness ingrained in biology. There is a tendency for humans to prefer certain goods, but it would...
Yes, I know that, but I am talking very specifically here. So why would government spending be bad in classical economics? They think it will cause in...
No, not quite boredom, unless existential boredom. It's more like this: 1) The sun goes up and down, round and round. 2) You go to bed and get up agai...
No, for example, the US is spending trillions of dollars on aid and stimulus bills. Classical and Keynesian economists might differ on the efficacy of...
@"Zeus" So Zeus, your thread was taken down because there are a lot of antinatalism threads already. Here is an example of one. I tried to get that ba...
You are simply not separating a life worth starting vs. a life worth continuing. The logic for a life worth starting is the following: The absence of ...
We know that a universe with life in it exists (otherwise nothing would be known anyways). It may be that that means that there is a high probability ...
Yes. Well put. Very good points. Well put. @"Pfhorrest" @"jjAmEs" I refer you to Inyenzi's post. Inyenzi, that is a great response. Most of the times,...
Yes I saw that one. Very appropriate for this discussion. I noticed the major theme there seemed to be to incorporate the lessons of the epidemic. Eve...
Yeah through discontinuing it, perhaps. Passive resistance, if you will. What does a collective pessimism mean you thin? A society that acknowledges t...
Again, what would collective pessimism look like rather than individual dispositions for pessimism? What of the fact that having new humans affects OT...
And what's wrong with nothing? Nothing never hurt nothing. More to the point, why does there need to be something or somebody in the first place? What...
Need to get working on is the slogan of the system. Rather, need to get working. Working. Throwing more people into the grist. What is wrong with lett...
The ultimate system is our own condition for survival, comfort, and entertainment, followed closely by social institutions that, by feeding individual...
Wants and needs are not even necessary sans being born. What would communal pessimism look like? Again, as I told @"jjAmEs", and I've heard this befor...
So if society perpetuates its dictates based on enculturating tricks, one of the more cunning ones is to make sure that the pessimist "knows" it is TH...
Right on. As Schopenhauer stated, people like to have something to struggle for- I suspect the "interests deeply embedded" part. It's an illusion, to ...
I like that one. Your needs and wants require others to work. Their needs and wants require you to work. I don't just mean in the economic sense, thou...
The absurdity comes from the repetition of human affairs- it all comes back to surviving, maintaining comfort, entertainment in some cultural context....
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