Terrapin Station

It's a state of emotion about how other people are behaving. So yeah, that is how you think other people should behave, but the reason you think that ...

At this point, if we were having this conversation in person, I'm confident you'd be trying to stop me from poking you with sharp objects, etc. (Which...

Ousting people is NOT not giving a fuck. That's precisely giving a fuck.

Yes it is, because all that morality is is a pain-like reaction to interpersonal behavior. Teaching someone to not give a fuck when they're raped, or ...

Then the society gives a fuck after all. Not giving a fuck means that anyone can do anything to anyone they like, and no one gives a fuck about it.

?? Morality isn't a solution to anything. It's a reaction that people naturally have, so that they can't help but have that reaction. You're hoping to...

Another reason is "I want to have sex with this person," and in your world, now there are no repercussions for having sex with them even if they're no...

You'd have to physically change how human brains work--or at least just give everyone a lobotomy, to get them to not care about any violence done to t...

I don't agree with a number of things here. But I'd say that the most important one is that morality isn't ultimately socially determined, it's indivi...

Seriously, though, I'd question this: The person might desire x to some extent, but y, where y is parsed as "laziness" in a negative sense by others, ...

Chillin'

Are their views really that unified and simple?

Well, valuing is something that individuals do. Things don't have value "on their own." They're valued by individuals, as much as the individual in qu...

I don't accept deontology or teleology. I don't think that either are required to be ethical of course.

Just the idea that mathematics determines anything about ontology.

lol--mathematics can't tell us anything like that. The whole idea of that is absurd. Mathematics is a language based on how we think about relations.

It doesn't matter if it's "natural" or not. It's possible for something to happen just once, or just twice, or whatever arbitrary, finite number we pi...

The conservation of energy has the same problem as SPR--it's rather arbitrary, and there's really no good reason to believe it as a principle. It's fi...

I'm okay with him calling it an "observation," but basically I agree with you. He's really just imagining something. Re communication, I don't know wh...

You wouldn't be able to make sense out of anyone ever saying, "It doesn't matter."

The PSR in general, including the revised one, just seems completely arbitrary to me. I don't see how we could possibly rule out "spontaneous events" ...

And if we don't buy the PSR at all--original, revised, etc.?

"Mattering"--or rather valuing things/aka feeling that something matters--is something that people do. So of course nothing is going to matter to anyt...

Yeah, the child probably didn't assign any particular meaning to "function" yet. It's just a sound, part of a pattern that she's emulating in that con...

That's fine, but you'd simply have to give how you're arriving at the view you're arriving at instead, without appealing to any standard scientific no...

Yet again you don't understand what I'm saying. All we can do is talk about the physical stuff in question. Talk about it structurally, relationally e...

No it doesn't. Imagining things from different points of reference isn't the same thing as being at that point of reference.

You responded to a post of mine where I mentioned observing things with: "Of course we observe all those things." That response continued in a manner ...

Your response didn't make a lot of sense to me, unfortunately. Also, you seem to be writing as if you think that I'm a representationalist or idealist...

All materials have unique properties in certain situations. I'm not sure what makes some of those properties "special." And the scientific reason neve...

Well, it's akin to asking why any physical stuff has just the properties it does.

Again, you didn't at all understand the comment I made. You won't accept that it's possible that you didn't understand it. When I started steps of dem...

No problem. Thank you for making the point so well. Good discussion.

Sure. So let's start with this: This is a strawman having sex with a red herring. Of course we attempt to provide cogent arguments. That has never bee...

Should I follow your example instead? (Or maybe you'd prefer I be dishonest?)

Geez. You passed that test of your understanding with flying colors. Exactly as I expected, lol. You're an incorrigible yet ridiculously arrogant moro...

Start with this: Of course we observe what things?

If you think you can't coherently formulate it then you can't make claims about not being able to know it.

Exactly, and sometimes it seems like that's what critics are demanding.

I'm surprised that you're commenting authoritatively despite not actually understanding the comment. Not really, though. If you're just claiming somet...

My impression has always been that the folks who stress that there's an "explanatory gap" would feel that way no matter what explanation is forwarded,...

How would it undermine a realist argument? If we're going to claim things about how brains etc. work, we need to be able to observe brains, other peop...

I think it's worth asking why are people who think that there's an "explanatory gap" likely to accept explanations that are "mapping between rich cons...

(a) Tell him that he's welcome to express his opinion, (b) Tell him that I agree with him that epistemologically, it's always a matter of believing on...

The point that I'm making is that things that are however they are, things that we can't do anything about--such as physical laws (or brute physical f...

The problem is that mathematics is a way that we think about relations. The world isn't required to match that.

If we're concluding that it's impossible to move then obviously we're going awry somewhere. Probably there isn't an infinite amount of points to cross...

?? The reason that I quoted this: "The quality of life of a yet to be born child is not a totally unknowable, transcendent mystery" is because that's ...

Strangely "cousin" is a relational term.

The issue at hand according to whom?