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No true statement of morality that we can make. Correct.

As an alternate methodological means (an alternate to science) of observing and analyzing the world, including us and our relationship with the rest o...

I'm primarily interested in philosophy in the vein of "I believe there is a refrigerator in my kitchen."

You're not understanding the question. Validity is a logical idea, and it obtains when it's impossible for a conclusion to be false and/or impossible ...

The problem is that on the " The morality or immorality of slavery is an individual judgement" view, no moral stance is true, real (in the objective s...

Yeah, I've asked him that a few times, but we haven't managed to explore it at all yet.

"Believing in yourself" is a different sense of the term than "Believing that there is a refrigerator in your kitchen."

Power may be significant, but it's also far more complex than simply being mapped to race, gender, economics, (relative) office, etc.

First, the "political compass" is a bit better to use: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Political_chart.svg/1200px-Political_...

Why I'd say that is because, on my view, "Mathematics is an abstracted way of thinking about relations," Which means that every human who engages in i...

So, when I first read your post, I thought, "What?? Of course that's not racist. Why would misidentifying someone be racist?" But then I read the arti...

I don't know enough about that to comment on it, because I don't really follow politics.

Well, because of the stuff in bold: "The term political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct; commonly abbreviated PC) is used to describe l...

Absolutely.

If only we could figure out exactly what it's supposed to have to do with that stuff. :joke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

You're not going to change anyone's opinions by placing prohibitions/sanctions, etc. on them. The only way to change opinions is to coax them into rea...

Voting on something isn't really an argument.

Just curious if there are any examples of this. Ah I just thought of one possibility. The Kathy Griffin thing, although I don't know how we could make...

No. I've posted this a couple times in the last month or so, and I'm pretty sure I directed you to it already: Mathematics is an abstracted way of thi...

Not that I agree with Trump overall on this, but "concerned that they will lose viewers and sponsors" is what is meant by "caving in to political corr...

All that really amounts to is saying that the people who don't agree with you are unreasonable. Not much of an argument.

That sounds like the extent of the "evidence" he's presenting. At least per the article you're quoting.

Nothing. I've said over and over that moral stances are simply preferences, utterances of approval and disapproval (about a particular subject matter,...

That's not part of what the world is like?

Sure, take your time. :up:

Not to speak for S, but I don't know what there would be to say to that. Is anyone disagreeing with it?

I just said, "Thoughts are the only things that have truth values." Obviously I think there is truth, then. It's a property of some thought. (But not ...

Yes. That's what I said about six or seven different ways above. Mentality period is just biology on my view. It seems so obvious to me that sometimes...

Yes, I really want you to present it, because if it wasn't clear already, I'm actually challenging that there has been any significant empirical resea...

Yes and thought is our bodies doing something. It's something our brains do. (Hopefully, at least. :razz: )

It makes no sense to me why this wouldn't count as an answer to you. Do you understand that on my view, moral stances are something that our bodies do...

http://www.talkorigins.org http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#pred4 http://ww...

Moral judgments are something that our bodies do in other words. So with respect to my view, you're asking about a commonality of our bodies. (Which i...

So (1) our bodies, due to (2) genetics and environment, and if you want you can explain at least the genetics part by (3) evolution. That should have ...

You believe, for some reason unbeknownst to me, that if morality is simply something that we do as individual human beings, there shouldn't be widespr...

I've addressed it a bunch of times. First, human bodies do not develop randomly. Do you agree with that?

Validity has to do with truth values, and in what perspective would different moral stances be equal?

If you're talking about the unanimity thing, we have addressed it. Our bodies don't develop randomly, do they? You're not addressing that. You're not ...

First, I don't look at it as anything about supernatural stuff, because there are a lot of objectivists who aren't positing anything supernatural. Re ...

It's frustrating that you can't get folks to follow through on a line of questioning about this stuff, because that could help them understand the oth...

And?

Human beings nearly universally have noses, don't they? But no one is saying that our noses aren't something that our bodies make. In order to think t...

"Objective" doesn't have anything to do with commonality or agreement. "Objective" simply refers to whether something occurs independently of persons....

They might make decisions that they'll come to regret, but big companies do have people whose jobs it is to analyze mountains of data--about their own...

If one wants to persuade people of something, stop worrying about what's objectively true about the thing in question and start reading books like: * ...

Good points again, and I pointed that same thing out earlier. If we're all objectivists, that doesn't help us to agree. As you point out, we're all ob...

Causal slippery slope is about causality. Think of it literally. If you kick that pebble it will hit that bigger rock below with enough force to move ...

??? I was simply pointing out that it's not true that "no one is saying what morality is." What's true is that you don't agree with what we're saying ...

I had no problem with it. I'm simply pointing out that you not agreeing with a claim isn't the same thing as someone not saying what something is.