Thx for the clarification, this makes more sense... though I'm still left wondering why identification with self would be taken as a criterium for bei...
But my point is that I don't see on what basis you are going make that argument even if we don't assume a full notion of free-choice. What is the argu...
The basis for such an action seem more like mercy to me... i.e. the poor fellow couldn't help but turn out that way given his upbringing and has it al...
I'm not entirely sure what you are getting at specifically. But in general, I think markets are effective and efficient at producing some goods and se...
I think the more general problem is that the goals of something that has that much influence and power over us are determined merely by profit incenti...
Well, I'd say that's a bit of a contentious claim since philosophy has been the handmaiden of religion for a couple of millennia. Right, so maybe ther...
There is no proof right, but then again nothing ever really gets proven in science, that's the purvue of logic and math only. On a macro-level things ...
I don't see how will never being free is a problem really. I would be a bit like saying that it's unfair to define water as wet because we happen to h...
Well, I may not know exactly what's going on, but probably just enough to know that Sartre's idea of radical freedom is maybe a bit to radical :-). An...
Just watched it. Manipulation is not exactly a new thing, religions used it, politician use it, parents use it... heck even this documentary about man...
Right, I will admit that I don't exactly know what's going on there, I used it mostly as a container-term, not necessarily as an exact one to one repr...
Banno, I think I agree that they are two ways of description on a different level or from a different perspective, but I don't think I'm pitting free ...
Maybe to clarify. If we do not choose our will, and our will determines what choices we make... you could say that that implies there is no way in whi...
I'm not quite sure as I indicated in my first post. Maybe there is a problem with our conception of morality being tied to freedom in the first place....
Yes, and I wouldn't have a problem with that per se. But what really matters is not so much if there is an account that would be acceptable, but if th...
Ok, I fully agree to all of this... I think we make choices and our will determines those. In fact we need a will to be even able to make choices. Whe...
I think the issue is that free will in everyday terms doesn't give you the kind of agency that is necessary for moral responsibility, so it doesn't re...
Right now I'm watching at my screen and there doesn't seem to be an entire universe attached to it... so I'm not sure what to make of that statement. ...
I don't think anybody really believes that they are the only thing that exists, even if logic would show that is the only thing we can be certain of. ...
No it would be "(another part of)will" deciding to chose, because you don't like indecision for instance. We decide, "we" are "our will"... but we do ...
Right, there's certainly some self-serving going on too. Still I can't help but think there is something more to it. Take the protest against wearing ...
Yes there is a difference if you look at it from the perspective of being true or sensible or whatever... all I'm saying is that I don't think that is...
Kenosha Kid, I'd like to add to that, that while the idea itself from the example you gave may be stupid, I can understand the general sentiment behin...
But they (multinationals anyway) do to some extend, by moving (parts of) their business to countries that have the most favorable regime for a particu...
No it's not, but it does seem to determine a lot of policy, be it via lobbying or via politicians having internalized a lot of it as an ideology. So t...
Yeah, I mean I have no problem with investing heavily in renewables, but that wouldn't even be necessary if real costs where taking into account. Or t...
Bit of a pedantic remark, but the logic is actually quite straightforward and laser-focussed on a certain goal. There's nothing wrong with their logic...
Not necessarily slingshot if there are a lot of reserves, and if the economy doesn't fully recover right away... but eventually one would think so yes...
Cost to environments should be taken into account so that it becomes more expensive. Markets seem to fail to do that, so they should be corrected. Is ...
Awareness of race isn't going to address systemic racism either it seems to me, at least not on it's own. It's interesting you bring up the UK and com...
I think they are all pretenders... if you look closely enough. Or if they are not, they will in some way have integrated the fact that they are also h...
No, I agree by and large. What interests me most is the question what are we going to do with this given. Nietzsche for instance points out that even ...
I get and can respect where you're coming from, but I went the other way. I used to believe in politics more, but have become progressively more distr...
Let's just say I don't like politics, and it has adverse effect on me when people try to infuse their language so as to elicit some effect from me. Ma...
I'm not talking about that sentence, although I do think the way I said it is more clear, but it's about the concept of white privilege. This is alrea...
I dunno, I think different people will react differently, as is evident from these threads I think. Some will maybe react in that way, some will be of...
Don't you think this is very convoluted way of talking? Why not just say that the problem is that non-whites are being discriminated and oppressed? Yo...
Yes I know privilege is not used only to refer to the law, it wasn't my intention to imply that, though I can see you could interpret what I wrote in ...
The thing you are looking to describe with the concept privilege is not contrary to my experience. The concept however don't correspond with the thing...
You're going from 'advantage', 'right', 'favour' in the definitions to 'freedom from oppression' in your description, how is that not a shift in meani...
It's just not what word means, like we know what the word table means and when and where it is applicable. This has nothing to do with morality. And n...
It doesn't matter what I have decided for the point that was being discussed. The point is that words are being used in a way that is not typical so a...
Perhaps, but belief it or not, some people are actually concerned with precision in the words they use. Like, don't try to convince me by manipulating...
I struggle to say something helpful about this, because there always seem to be trade-offs. But I suppose if you are the kind of person that wants thi...
Well yes, there are some guarantees for independence for the scientific community, but at the end of the day the funding for science does come from so...
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