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I've not made any ad hominem attacks. Please understand that just repeating the same thing will get tempers to rise. Always true to really think what ...

I agree. But sometimes a tree looks nice to bang your head into. I would be very thankful if someone gave their time to answer my ideas as @"TonesInDe...

This is pretty damning for Laplace, actually. Exactly. They don't refute each other! You can have (and have) both determinism and free will. People fi...

This is quite a whimsical statement. FYI the UN or any aid organization didn't make the statements that the aid to the civilians of the cities where t...

Actually not. I've started from the reasonable (or at least in my opinion a reasonable) stance that Israel should show restraint against civilians and...

Did he at the time? The undecidability results (Gödel, Turing, Tarski etc.) aren't so directly understood as you say. For example, just read this arti...

Exactly, "Hindu's Demon" or God is beyond logic. Yet when we keep to the logic, it is a limitation because of logic, not just the assumption "that we ...

And as I pointed, Laplace never talked about and LD or a "Law of Everything" that we don't know, but assumed if some extremely well informed entity co...

If you would just listen to yourself, you would notice how crazy your specifications for being pro-something are. :smirk:

When? Prior to 1948? Or prior to the Arab revolt of 1936-1939? I think you should notice how Israel is changing too.

In the strict sense, a model that is false. Or simply a model that gives us something true, but it isn't a perfect example of the future. So can it sa...

Again your not getting the point. That turn hasn't happened yet, it's in the future. The pilot is flying the aircraft ordinarily, because the aircraft...

You do understand that there's a war going on? And yes, there's plentiful of vitriol and hatred with the Palestinian camp. And similar opinions are pl...

Actually thinking of Israel started to change with "Peace for Galilee" and the massacres in Shabra and Shatila (done by the Falangists). Then with the...

But these things take time. Times do change, but perhaps it will take a decade or so.

Forecast = an accurate model of future interaction means simply that LD or someone interacts with something in the universe. This means that an accura...

First of all, when you asked for a real world example, I assumed that kind of example didn't take into account LD. As I've said, there is absolutely n...

I see only two possibilities for a viable functioning Palestinian state to emerge: a) Israel suffers a military defeat b) Israel's would face economic...

Exactly, you got my point. :grin: This is a good argument. If look at the discussion above with @"Harry Hindu", I gave the example of the problem that...

1 Hope you see the point why you could not give an accurate forecast here. And it's likely that people don't bother to make a forecast when the game i...

Yet self employed have this thing that they don't have an employer. Or they are their own employer. Bit of a problem for the worker - employer And it'...

Thanks for your patience. And good that we agree on a lot of things, so I'll try to give examples. Here's a real world example: Let's say I will write...

Well, not all Americans support Trump either. But some do, yes. :smirk: And Russians have long known to say different things in public and to what you...

Shorter sentences, Schop! At least they were willing to negotiate about the two state solution, accepted the existence of Israel and even think were t...

Farmers for starters, usually they don't work for a company and are basically self-employed entrepreneurs, even if many times simply they are put into...

Even if I very gladly acknowledge the positive things that comes tech innovation that the defense sponsors, I still argue that a lot comes from entrep...

Nowhere is it stated that you have to provide food and shelter to an invading enemy. And you don't have to the 8th Century. When Finns retreated in WW...

And "Tovarich Trump" will likely disappoint Putin again.

Good luck with that. Israeli politics have changed. That's the problem here. Correct. They just reject the PLO as their country has been all the time ...

No, It's not the lacking information, it's that interaction creates new information/situation. With negative self reference, there really isn't the ca...

:brow: Gödel is incoherent? Interesting to talk about the same issue in two threads at the same time, but anyway... Ok, let's think about some of thes...

Be more specific then... How about for your own actions in war. As I've stated, abiding the laws of war don't hinder you ability to fight an enemy. An...

But here's the point. The Demon isn't omnipotent. From Laplace's example, it "simply" knows a) everything from the past and b) all the laws of nature....

Yes, yet the Demon a) doesn't control everything and b) has to give a prediction. Besides, you should note just how the Demon makes a computation and ...

Nope. Doesn't go like that. If the Demon predicts that it's the opposite, then the person does what the prediction says, hence the Demon was wrong in ...

IN A LOT OF PLACES!!! In the Old Testament, where not? should be the question. In the Old Testament, not a forgiving peacenik of a Dad like in the tea...

Again, do not convieniently forget the colony of the US, the Philippines. It wasn't just an attack on Pearl Harbour, it was also the Japanese taking o...

Yes, life is so. A pre-emptive attack is quite an oxymoron. Just like a suprise pre-emptive nuclear strike that reaches total strategic surprise and d...

Only if he doesn't interact with us, he can know. Then it is really that computable extrapolation with total information of the past on forward. The D...

Not even so. Even if you have all the information, it still isn't possible. Let me explain: Even if you would have all the information necessary to sa...

You should first answer, when do people or animals become self-aware? Is there an universal agreement how this happens?

Perhaps I should have been more precise: We can assume that there's the future that will certainly happen. But it is illogical then to think that we, ...

OK, these all are undecidability results and hence are quite similar. Yet these findings aren't a repeat finding of a paradox. As also @"tim wood" sta...

A legitimate war is if you are attacked, you can justifiably defend yourself. Even the Old Testament in the Bible says so (not the New Testament, and ...

Exactly. And here's what people don't get: the future that really will happen is out of bounds from us, because we have an effect on what the future i...

Even if I'm just an amateur on these issues, I think here's a mistake. Gödel isn't just coming up with the Liar paradox and "hiding" the missing infer...

Well, what does present physics look like? Hey guys! These formulas seem to work and are very handy... so let's go with them. No idea why they work, b...

Here's a dubious remark from a similar amateur math-logics fan. I think that the in algebra the similar problems do arise. After all, similar undecida...

Assuming then it returns true for all true strings and false for all false ones, right? So are you going here for the solution for the Entscheidungspr...

Even our own subjectivity has still some philosophical and metaphysical questions. We simply start from being subjects. Hence it's no wonder we have p...