Yes, I get what you are saying in your entire reply. That at its core, morality is subjective. But I am fine with that, because internal consistency w...
I am not part of this "every other single person on Earth does" that you speak of. I don't base my moral actions on intuition like you do, as that is ...
Yes, absolutely. Which is why I try my best to buy from companies who do not exploit workers in that way. I do the best I can with the best resources ...
I understand what you are saying, but I am specifically asking you about your subjective moral foundation. Not about society or people in general. I a...
The point is dead if you're not willing to understand it. If you cannot get past the idea that you, as the consumer, are partly responsible for how a ...
I understand that, and I am not necessarily trying to change the minds of people I am directly debating. A vast majority of the time, the people I tal...
It's not a theory, as it is a way of life you can actually deploy in reality. It is the way I live, and the way I think. I try my best to obtain the m...
Likewise. Did you not read the rest of what I said? I followed that up by asking you how you differentiate a good action from a bad action. And I am r...
Yes, but we don't need to speed up our demise, and we may even possibly able to reverse it. Although some plant-based products cause some environmenta...
This is why this approach fails. If you take a society where 60% of the people were slave owners, and 40% were slaves, this is useful and beneficial f...
So until the government put animal cruelty laws in place, you didn't know how to not be cruel to animals? You seem to be saying, you will go along wit...
- https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data Global Emissions by Gas - Agricultural activities are part of all forms (aside...
Not sure if you are aware, but factory farming is one of the leading causes of environmental damage. I'll assume you accept the science behind global ...
Bacteria and mosquitoes do not have the same cognitive ability to reason and evaluate actions as we do. We are the more intelligent species, in which ...
Unnecessary=Not needed Need=something essential to survival. It is a scientific fact that we do not need to consume animals to survive. In fact, the o...
You apply logic to actions taken by humans, in which you can improve the understanding of those actions and make better decisions in the future. If yo...
So you would rather stay willfully ignorant, than to understand the truth and change accordingly? You are responsible for what happens to these animal...
I think it is never too late for change, but I can understand why you wouldn't care to put in the effort at this time in your life. I think the animal...
I originally started this thread, and I try to respond to everyone who contributes to it, including the people who didn't directly respond to me. For ...
Who said that all possible farming is harmful? Matter of fact, there are some farms who do not kill their animals, but still sell their products rarel...
If there was a ban on human trafficking, would you also say there is a consequence of that ban, because many people making a living by trafficking wom...
Do you buy leather? Do you buy down comforters? Are you a cannibal? I'll give you a "practical" reason for each scenario. - I want to kill the severel...
Nazivegans? If I was against slavery, would you call me a nazi-anti-slavery person? That's just a very strange wording, because Veganism is about equa...
The questions are related. Our dominion over animals has caused unnecessary suffering, which is specifically for our convenience and pleasure. Therefo...
So if the infant is mentally disabled, to the point where they have the same consciousness and intelligence level as a cow, are we then OK to kill tha...
This runs into problems when you push consistency toward your "species membership" idea. Because this is what you are saying, in a basic form. - It is...
Then why support what you don't approve of? Do you still buy animal products? If so, then you are directly contradicting yourself. You cannot say "I d...
Yet, the cow is caged and unable to move to get away from a forced impregnation by the technician. At least with the bull, she is able to exercise her...
Is that how you define ethics? A social contract? So if there is a social contract to own humans as slaves, does that mean it is ethical and permissib...
What's natural about rape (forced artificial insemination), torture and unnecessary slaughter? Is this how you define ethics? So ethics do not concern...
Omnivore is a consumption classification for animals that have the capability to obtain chemical energy and nutrients from materials originating from ...
Still not sure I understand your point, but I'll try to answer. I don't think it is immoral to kill an animal for your survival. Whether that is a dog...
I never stated we can perfectly refrain from exploiting any form of life. We do it all the time, and it will be almost impossible to eradicate it. Wha...
A rhino isn't warm n' fuzzie, yet I would put him on the same plain of moral consideration as dogs. Also, it is not arbitrary to state that sentient c...
When did I say humans are wholly separate from nature? Humans are animals. Animals are a part of nature. Humans are a part of nature. I never denied t...
The main distinction that you seem to be ignoring here is, our pets cannot survive on their own. They wouldn't be able to eat normally, while also bei...
Understood, but would you stop unnecessary violence if you could? I understand that much of us have probably benefited from the exploitation of anothe...
Going to ignore you from this point on, since it is clear you're a troll and/or uninterested to have an actual discussion, while dishonestly misrepres...
Yes, humans are a part of nature. Yes, things that humans create (such as watches) are not found in nature. Things that occur naturally, such as trees...
Life exploits life? What are you talking about. Also, majority of the US and many other parts of the world are obese, if not at least overweight. And ...
Also. If you had a daughter, and your daughter had a husband. And your daughter had a friend (or co-worker) who found out about her husband cheating o...
I persuaded myself that unnecessary harm being caused to others should be stopped, especially if you are able to to do. And in this case, the OP is ab...
Now this will come down to how you define morality, and how you come to moral decisions. For me, it is quite simple. Morality is how we differentiate ...
Why are people deserving of living a life without exploitation, but animals are not? Also, of course the farm animals that we genetically modified int...
When did I say that everything we do becomes unnatural? I was referring to one specific thing, which is breeding animals into existence (rather than l...
Then clarify what you are asking next time. You can look up the word "should" if you want to, as there are clear dictionary definitions. When I say sh...
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I will address your statement. We have a higher moral consideration to life that is sentient, since that life ...
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