Agree completely. Forum culture can be strange. On many forums the mods will be absolutely hysterical about spam (no argument there) but then they let...
My point is that it's not going to be possible to do successful brand repair while the Church clings to such gibberish. Nor will it be possible for th...
The homosexuality issue could be another example of the scale of change required to repair the brand. Francis is trying to gradually tip toe his way t...
My understanding is that Francis is attempting to change the tone... https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/world/europe/vatican-signals-more-tolerance-to...
Personally, I am TOTALLY OUTRAGED that the mods refuse to publish the utterly brilliant ground breaking posts which I never submitted because I'm not ...
In the coming Catholic utopia, when I make a stupid crack like that a nun will whack me up side of the head with a rolled up newspaper, with a wink an...
Except that reality doesn't seem to care all that much about all this little human reason stuff. The overwhelming vast majority of reality is space, w...
I agree of course. True of any group of humans. I'm not demanding perfection, just wondering if improvements are possible. I don't know the answer, bu...
While I agree with your even handed analysis of President Dumpster :smile: there is another side to the story, sorta. Trump understands the media, and...
In the coming Catholic utopia the endlessly repetitive argumentative ideological squabbling which has afflicted Christianity for 20 centuries will fin...
Things require boundaries. Here's a little experiment to illustrate. Drink a glass of water. When does the water become you? The boundary can be reaso...
Sounds to me more like the God debate would finally be getting somewhere. That is, folks would finally be inspecting and challenging some of the "take...
In the coming Catholic utopia, somewhat pompous hardly humble wannabe clergy such as myself found burping long winded sanctimonious sermons will sudde...
If the above posters are mostly young folk, the following might help... You've been up since dawn, running around all day doing all kinds of things. Y...
Ok, I'm not against such awareness, but I would also emphasize that we typically are not in a position to make anybody feel anything. This is especial...
It's indisputably true that the Church does a lot of good work. It also seems true that these good works are good for the reputation of the Church, wh...
The majority of the time, other people don't make us suffer. We choose to suffer. The majority of the time, suffering is not a situation, but rather o...
The first thing to come to mind is that nobody actually knows whether life is pointless or not. There are opinions on all sides of that issues, but no...
How is Catholicism going to change the world if Catholics can't handle dialog with people who don't share their views? Are Catholics who dialog almost...
An illusion created by the limitations of the observer? As example, the Earth appears to be at the center of the universe from our limited perspective...
That is what the Church teaches IF we accept your definition of what the Church is, ie. Church=Clergy. What you're dodging is that even if we accept y...
Who is creating apostolic tradition but the clergy? I know all this too, and I also know you are dodging around the fact that there is constant ongoin...
As a sidebar, here's a site by Catholic academics. https://catholicmoraltheology.com/ There's no conversation there, though they have the comment sect...
Ok, "apostolic tradition" is another way of saying "clergy". And, the clergy do not all agree among themselves. Some support traditionalist perspectiv...
Yes, agreed. I hope we might also agree that the challenge to Papal authority also exists within the Catholic community, as example, those millions of...
Imagine that I were the leading spokesman on the forum for an imaginary ideology we'll call Jakism. But then I get caught raping children or covering ...
For what it's worth, it's ok to argue with me should the need arise, I don't object. Should you need to yell at me, that's ok too, doing so does not m...
There is so much that can be said. But I agree it won't make much difference in Catholic culture. For what it's worth, I didn't find your dismissal of...
Where in the New Testament did Jesus say that women could never lead the Church, even 2,000 years after his death? Let's look at who you are referenci...
A specific example was requested. I've put one on hold because I'm not sure the mods can handle it. So here's another example where I do the relentles...
Well ok then, what bold action do you propose other than just waiting? What you said was... I don't see anything but waiting for it to blow over in th...
I'm not arguing with this, just saying that many people appear to share your view, and in their frustration have turned to options outside the usual r...
Good point. I'm not suggesting the Church can be perfect, only that it can be more credible. This is what I'm rejecting, the "just be patient and this...
Such sentiments are perhaps at least part of how Trump got elected. Many people are looking for something other than the status quo, and Trump isn't r...
Bitter Crank is the only true liberal on the forum as he is celebrating election day by blowing the Tweeter-In-Chief out his butt. And by the way Mr. ...
Returning to the opening post, I see a possibility for some agreement. "Abandoning the world of ideas" seems somewhat similar to my suggestion to trad...
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