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To recap the latest I say it is not a matter of fact that either God is or god is not You say no it is about a state of affairs I say what are the sta...

And this is different from my point that is is not a fact that God is or God is not how exactly

My P6 only says P6. There are arguments – based on reason – an “un-created – creator” existed And I grant as below P7. The arguments if P6 – have reas...

What is the current state of affairs as to the existence of God then ? Please complete the thought so some one as challenged as myself can understand

you gave me a dichotomous choice either a is or a is not. It is a fact that a is or a is not. That does not make a fact that we know which is true. Th...

we are up to like 10 times now where you are trying to turn the argument into me saying that god is, so you can say prove it. It is not the argument a...

if your point is, that either god is or god is not is a fact. I say yes it is one or the other. If you say god is not is a fact I say no. And I do not...

Theism is a fact. It was my P1. Theism is I have never denied theism is a fact. No clue what you are trying to say.

I do think it is most reasonable, and I think that position is reasonable. I also respect the counter position. I know of no way at all to measure in ...

i like this way of looking at it. It is an act of faith when an action requires 100 % commitment and the consequences are a matter of some probability...

a fine note to end on

no - I am asking others to respect the belief that theism is a reasonable belief. I am not asking that they find theism reasonable.

of course we can - i can see, appreciate and find all kinds of arguments reasonable that I don't agree with. as above - there is no fault whatsoever i...

i find the premises true and the conclusion follows

just go back to the original argument - it is quite simple and clear. If you have a another reasoned and logical objection - i am happy to address - b...

see above.

No no no Mate - You really really want this to be an argument that GOD is and want me to support it. I HAVE NOT MADE THAT ARGUMENT - I have stated in ...

ah here is something I can build on. The fact that you do not find it reasonable is absolutely fine with me - quite you prerogative - and I respect yo...

this i answered with: you continue to move goal posts and make the argument you want - or ignore or dismiss without argument my counters and go back a...

what did i miss that supports this last sentence ??

Listen S The are hundreds of years of argument on the reasonably of theism and none have defeated the assertion in any broad sense what so ever. My ag...

where you absent in philosophy class when they talked about logical arguments ? It is my proposition as true - it stands as true unless you can show i...

because .... you can not just dismiss a premise because you don' t like it - make a case no - I gave you all the options of YOUR logic you need to tre...

I make argument A - say the cosmological argument - i pro-port this argument is based on propositions that are true and a conclusion that follows - I ...

just gish gallup - you are wasting my time again - there is no way on earth I could be more clear on any of these points - which you either willfully ...

further to above - my original argument was 1. above that it is not a matter of fact. I have been generous with you for a few exchanges now to enterta...

ok - now using your definition of fact, here are all the options 1. It is not a matter of fact that God is, or is not - Theism can not be in conflict ...

how is that ?? How is my claim that theism is not it conflict with fact, if in fact we do not know what the fact is ?? disagree - in this case to refu...

more twitter - all your points have been answered - i remain unconvinced you have made any reasonable challenge to my argument - when you have somethi...

just did that - in detail show that you actually take 2 minutes to understand the points made back to you before arguing them - it seems your only tac...

I have addressed this point at least 3 times in this latest exchange - you are now just trying an argument ad nauseam - I put the argument in form to ...

are you asking for me to make a specific reasonable argument for theism - to support my position there are such things ?? If so sure - but jumped to t...

Okay - your original point was A. God's existence is not a matter of fact or If that is false, then God's existence is a matter of fact and either B. ...

thanks Isaac - to be more precise my conclusion was Therefore - Theism, as defined is not in direct conflict with fact. Theism, as defined is not in d...

is this tactic or are you just missing the point - I say theism is reasonable you highlight - sort of that in the case where a is false and b is true ...

that is just pure nonsense - let me help A is either True or False - if A is True - neither B or C have meaning If A is False - Either B or C but not ...

that is as much an opinion as the first, only in latin Beautifully written - However if: A. God's existence is not a matter of fact or B. not a fact t...

thank you for the opinion - I made an argument - please again feel free to show which premise is false or the conclusion does not follow - or again if...

You are correct, I do have an agenda. And I am more than happy to restate it. My agenda is that theism is a reasonable world view, and when dismissed ...

well according to Camus yes - him speaking not me, would say that "experience" you are elevating to a meaning for existence is as faith based as the t...

No one I can think of knows if there is an objective meaning for life, so all the one's we pro-port as meaning are subjective - maybe even unique to t...

that is pretty much what it says - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/

there is about a 100 Pct chance that I may not be best person to explain Quantum Entanglement - but before you dismiss it - I would highly recommend a...

just to get a little wielder - If nothing is what it is, or can be anything until it is observed. That could mean our entire reality is best explained...

"exist" as I used it above may be as precise as I need it to be. The electron my be "something" that can exist in all states and with all possible pro...

then you should love this stuff. Leaving the real world for a second. Or better said maybe leaving the time line we are observing for a "second" . QM ...

reasonable reply - not being snide - but there is a ton of stuff on the internet about it written for laymen like me. Worth an hour or two - also a pr...

according to entanglement - and as shown be experiments - no it does not . Entanglement would even say the electron does not even exist before it is "...

In Eisenstein's world of general relativity - yes, in the world of Quantum Mechanics - no.

Pardon the slack language - there have been many experiments done that show entanglement happened, as predicted by the tested hypothesis - was not sur...