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Then, the question, is irrelevant in Transcendental philosophy?

Seeing is not a property for space. Space has a few properties based on physics, but visibility is not one of them.

A resolute agreement :up:

:up: In the preface CPR, Kant sounds like he is on duty to reinstate Metaphysics as the queen of all Science. Kant's Space in TI of CPR is intuited pu...

Yup, I read that Kant has been taken seriously by the current scientists especially, because his idea on Space and Time is not just for empirical real...

If Kant's view on space and time was only pure intuitions, and there is no physical space and time as such, then he wouldn't have been taken seriously...

Did he not oppose to both rationalism and empiricism? He wanted to combine the two schools, saying that both rationalism and empiricism lack in cohere...

Kant wrote CPR in order to investigate on Reason, and make secure footing for Metaphysics as Science. So he wasn't quite interested in idealism or rea...

Great summary :up:

:up: So your view is also for Kant's space and time as both empirical reality and pure intuitions too. :up: Any idea why he had to go that way in CPR?

Kant mentions dichotomy of the types of knowledge, experience and the world in CPR i.e. a priori / a posteriori, analytic / synthetic, phenomenon / no...

I try not to 100% rely on or accept the internet sites information even SEP (because even SEP they don't have various different commentaries on the sa...

I am not sure if anyone claims that space is internal intuition or categories, then whether he could be qualified as a realist. Shouldn't he be an ide...

Sounds like a nice place. Never been there, so afraid it is a place of imagination for me. If you are an idealist, then none of your claims can be ref...

Wow cool ~ :cool: It might be the case that the state of altered consciousness might see space better actually.

Was just responding to your questions and objections. :D If you want to know further on how to see physical space, here is a video. https://www.youtub...

If you are in space where it is not purely empty, then there would be all the molecules and dusts of tiny sizes will be floating in the space. If you ...

I have a plain 1950s HB copy of NKSmith CPR. It feels nice, and vintage. But I am not sure if the translation is best compared to the others. I see sp...

I am not getting your point why you cannot see space when seeing a tree. Tree is occupying the space it is standing. Without space, existence is impos...

We are talking Kant's CPR here. You cannot perceive a tree without space around it. It is not about precedence, but it is about different type of perc...

Here is another quote from CPR in JMDM version. "For example, the proposition, 'All objects are beside each other in space,' is valid only under the l...

Space in Transcendental Ideality case is for doing Geometry, and visualising a postbox in mind. In that case, it is in the form of a pure intuition. B...

In NKS version he makes it in italics, "We assert, then, the empirical reality of space, as regards all possible outer experience;" He was not just sa...

I am not sure why we are now looking into space for thing-in-itself, when we have been talking about space for the objects in the empirical reality. I...

I am not sure on other cases, but I am only commenting on your case, because your claim was found to be groundless. Indeed it is pointless to dip into...

No. I think there are fallacies in your claims.

Kant had been clear about this point in the quotes. He "asserts space as Empirical Reality " for perceptions via sensibility. He then goes on making p...

We call it a nonsense. You can begin wherever you like, but if anyone will agree with you is another matter. No one is quibbling about how or what you...

What Kant was saying is not that obscure in the quotes of CPR on this issue. It is very clear for everyone. I was just giving examples of perception h...

You insist that this is a thread for Kant's CPR reading, but you are not even accepting what Kant was saying in CPR in plain English (translated of co...

Now you are being an extreme sophist.

Well if you are talking 100% from your subjectivity only, then you cannot communicate with anyone apart from you. We are searching for some degree of ...

If you see empty bucket, then the bucket and space in and outside of it are all outside of you. But if you imagine or visualise empty bucket, then the...

Was just pointing out, what you claim as Real in your perception might be Unreal. Due to the nature of our sense organs, we sometimes perceive Unreal ...

How can you imagine a flying elephant without seeing it? Your point was that either you were seeing or imagining a flying elephant, and it is REAL. My...

I read the other translation copies of CPR, and they all seem to be saying the same thing. When you are seeing a tree in the garden, that is perceptio...

There are more quotes from CPR suggesting that Kant had the dual perspectives on the concept of Space. By the way, this quote is not from the antinomy...

"It will be evident that what we here desire to say is that empty space, so far as it is limited by appearances, that is, empty space within the world...

Reason deals with both aspect of space as implied in Antinomy of Pure Reason in CPR. Wouldn't it be better reading between the lines at times where it...

Presupposition is condition, not to deduce. Yes, isn't it what exactly Kant was pointing out? Space is a necessary precondition for appearance of obje...

That sounds like psychological not epistemological. :nerd:

That is not the only thing Kant was writing about. He wrote about wide variety of topics. If Real is taken to be existence, then it relates to the pro...

Sorry I thought you were claiming that space is incomprehensible. Were we not talking about perception of space? My point was that you cannot perceive...

For me, I also can see a flying elephant, when I try to imagine one in my mind. It does have a pair of wings, and flies above the clouds like a hang g...

Suffering sounds like from "illness" or "pain". No. You were having a groundless belief, and your reason confirmed it as a groundless belief.

If space is incomprehensible / impossible to perceive, then how is it possible to perceive the objects in it? Isn't perception of space necessarily de...

Ehyyyy - I was not asking about Perception, but Perception of space.

It appears that you were trying to clarify the concept of real before giving out more of your answers, but unfortunately you were interrupted by . I t...

What are the differences on PERCEPTION of space and SPACE?

Aren't illusions to do with unfounded or mistaken sense perception? "For example: Auditory Illusions: These involve the sense of hearing. An example i...