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Maybe the doctrine transcends human language and logic? If it resonates with you, then I would guess that your consciousness operates in different dom...

Thanks for all your posts. Will come back with more of my replies on the rest of your posts in due course. G'day~

I have not come across Mario Bunge before, but he seems to be a great thinker. Will have readings on the quotes you provided in the post, as they seem...

Isn't time then some sort of mental states or awareness? Time is not external existence. We just postulate time from the events, motions and movements...

Isn't it a product of human mind? You see the sun rise in the morning, and impose an idea that time has passed. Nothing has passed. It was the earth w...

So we can conclude that Jesus and God is not one. From the discussions so far, it seems to be safe to conclude that, 1) Jesus was not God. He doesn't ...

Well, it seems like a tough situation. But still practical reason tells me that killing is bad, and life must go on. Everyone has a cross to bear in t...

All killings and torturing are in the domain of the legal matter. They are not morality. I am not sure what part of the world you are living, but in w...

Great analysis on the points. Will go over on them again when time permits, and will get back to you if there are any points to clarify. Many thanks !...

Isn't it the other way around? Without movement and changes, there would be no time. With the objects moving in space, time was deduced from the inter...

Movements exist for sure. I drop a coin, and it falls onto the floor. But still I cannot see time. I only see the movement.

Sure, but this doesn't tell what the existence of time is.

Yes, a good point. However, being beneficial is not also evidences for something to exist. Here we are concerned on the nature of time and its existen...

Yet another proof that there are many things we say exist, but don't. :nerd:

A proof that there are many things we say exist, but don't.

The evening star is the morning star. Isn't it a tautology and also contradiction, but a true statement?

Isn't Geometry an object of thought rather than a way of thought?

To reiterate the point, it is not the case that I am not happy with the example. It is the case that the example doesn't demonstrate a logical necessi...

You have to understand that not every action is moral action. Moral action means that it was reasoned, premeditated and contemplated before the action...

I was trying to put the playing cards into numeric order from number 1 to number 64. It was not a fast process at all, because when I picked up number...

I do find serious flaws in the claim, when it says, just because MoK has the same essence as John i.e. being human, MoK and John is one. I would point...

I thought it was a form of hikikomori, but maybe it is not. It doesn't matter what it is. The whole point is about the principle of morality and how i...

If he needed my assistance, I would just say to him, "Man get a life. Get wild GFs, and enjoy life man." Will have to persevere with advice and encour...

It is a completely irrational statement based on the wrong assumption.

I have never said that. I said it is wrong to kill any life. But he also has his right to decide on his own life. No one has right to decide his life ...

The truth is, it doesn't. There is no evidence torturing saves human lives.

Where did I say I disagreed with my own statement?

Do you agree with him?

I would presume Kant would say, well by rational thinking there is no evidence torturing would save anyone's lives. Therefore torturing is not justifi...

Well, if you asked me about the case personally, my answer to that would be, you are asking a wrong person. I don't have enough details about the case...

I was not attacking, but asking about it. Could we not discuss the points based on the natural logic and reasoning? Why Aquinas? We are not going to a...

There is possibility that you have mistaken the identity of the folks whom you thought were terrorists, but they were not. Torturing the folks are cri...

But you haven't asked Kant in person, what would be the case torturing the terrorists. If you did, he would have said to you "Have you tried all other...

I already have added the more explanation of how those factors do hamper coming to moral judgements with your example of the lock-in man. Hence you mu...

You need to exclude all the irrational elements in the process of moral reasoning. If we mix them up, then you won't be able to arrive at the fair and...

It is not a black box. It was to show a typical progress in moral judgement in order to help you understand where the emotions and reasoning are in th...

This is the process of how moral judgement takes place. External perception on the moral case -> Feelings and Beliefs on the case -> Reasoning -> Mora...

You seem to have misunderstood my point there. I have not said much about reason, ought or can. I just said, moral judgements must be based on reason....

We are not denying the workings of beliefs and feelings and emotion in mental events. However, these mental states are largely caused by the other men...

If someone said to you, "I believe that you have insulted my intelligence. Therefore I feel you are evil and bad." How do you justify that claim?

Going back to MoK's point, Kant would ask you, if torturing was the last resort for the resolution. Have you tried all other means to get the informat...

Belief without reason can be groundless and unfounded. Beliefs must go through verification of reason to be fit for judgement and decision. They say j...

This is why you need reasoning. You will know that torturing is not the only way to get the information. You could have good conversation with them, a...

You build the situation with your perception and reasoning, not with feelings and beliefs. Feelings, beliefs, opinions and interests blind you from th...

"share the same essence" sounds unclear here. If MoK and John share the same essence which is human, has minds, 2 arms and 2 legs, does it mean MoK is...

From the OP, it clearly seems to indicate and prove that He and God are not one. Therefore Trinity doctrine is false?

Going back to the OP, we seem to be in agreement on the point that believing in God does not resolve moral conflict. However, you seem to be claiming ...

Looking at it more closely, the circles must have no connections where the paths are "Is Not". Connecting them with the paths and making to appear as ...

The figure seems to be saying now 4 is 1 and 4 is not 1. God, Father, Son, The Holy Spirit Isn't it still A^~A ? :chin: :smile:

Yeah, they could. But they feed with the irrational and illusional side of situations. They creep up even when you are trying to reason on the facts a...