Inyenzi

Fantastic post :up:

Yes. It is utterly bizarre to exist at all.

The OP is an attempt to give a shred of credibility in its favour. You have direct knowledge of your own present existence. Our autobiographical memor...

And yet here we are, consciously perceiving and feeling. And when we die and it is the very same 'not-existing' as prior to our coming into being that...

So the purpose of this thread is to try and get a discussion started on whether this view on pleasure (found also in the thought of the Buddhists, Art...

I agree with these themes. Due to pleasure only existing in relation some suffering or desire being negated, it cannot given as that which gives life ...

Yep, so what I am referring to Schophenauer's views along these lines:

There is a general theme, in antinatalist thought especially, that children (including themselves) were essentially pulled from non-condition into a s...

But people do not have children based on philosophical arguments or reasoning, and so it might be somewhat misguided to try and prevent births through...

Their mother, for inflicting life upon both :)

Is it actually coherent that before our births we did not exist in any sense? As if from a 'state' of parinirvana, a mind-stream has been formed (with...

Whatever way you answer the question (if at all), you continue living. It's the default state. You have needs for oxygen, shelter, water, food, etc, w...

Once during my teens, while feeling particularly angsty and depressed I demanded to know why my mother had inflicted life upon me (and my 5 siblings)....

I don't think this is how perception works at all though. We don't look around at a world of mere surfaces, and then infer mentally that these surface...

What's the point? You can neither be better nor worse off by your own death - death destroys whatever could be affected by it. Suicide is much like vi...

I think this is a really important point. When you cannot feel joy or any genuine positive sensation, it becomes rational to conclude that all action ...

Is eating a political act? When I eat food to nourish my body and end my hunger, am I voting YES! for my continued embodiment? I think it's more mindl...

I think the issue here is the soul is being treated as if it is just another object in the world, acting on other objects/being acted upon. The soul i...

Is death even a harm to those that die? Its not like the executed persits on in a post-death state, being deprived of the life that was taken from him...

You sound clinically depressed. Insomnia is one of the major symptoms of depression. I wrote this as a response to your last thread but I'll post it h...

I think part of what's going on with the philosophical pessimist 'mindset' is a projection from ones (miserable) conscious experience, out into the st...

Well, I agree. So what to do? Suicide? If being alive involves being embodied within this locus of perpetual needs, wants, desires and pains, why not ...

He'd start rambling on about consciousness like David Dennet :smile:

Your survival depends upon existing within a community that to a large degree fuels/feeds itself on the use of animals. Sure, you can personally choos...

Do you also see antinatalism itself as an ideation coping technique? Is anything learned about the nature of things by the ending of mankind itself? A...

I guess it's just how you look at it. Most people will say you only ask these questions and see the world in this way because you're not caught up in ...

But for the vast majority of people the barebones of the world is not a void or an "existential striving", it's their relationships with others. You a...

Antinatalism has a lot of parallels with Buddhist nirvana, just with a different means to bring about the same result. The antinatalist wants to bring...