As I explained, Aristotle's description is like this. At t1 there is not-being of the house. At t2 there is being of the house. The time in between in...
Yes there is a miracle. The miracle is the start, the initial act, or force, which breaks the previous inertia, causing the new motion toward its end ...
You made that conclusion that a house cannot be being built, not I, and you did so because you misunderstood me. I said that when we say "a house is b...
That's what I've been arguing since the beginning of the thread. And the reason why it can't be on or off is that in the described 'possible world' tw...
You are the one who used language to come to the absurd conclusion, that houses cannot be built. So it's your thinking which needs to be rethought. I ...
That is a deficiency of language, not a deficiency of action. And Aristotle has much respect for that type of sophistry which issues forth from this d...
By art is one type of generation, by nature is another type. Yes I was. "Being" for Aristotle implies having both matter and form. We cannot attribute...
That is called "generation", or "coming to be", when a thing changes from not being to being. It's discussed at length by Aristotle in a number of dif...
And did you learn that something which doesn't exist yet can be acted on? Or, did you learn that it is really a project (goal or intention) which was ...
Then this example is irrelevant to what we are discussing, the intentional activity of building. Also, the noun "passion" is related to this activity,...
The important aspect to recognize in understanding Aristotle's teleological metaphysics, is that the goal, end, or objective, is intermediary between ...
"Efficient cause" refers to the particular action which leads to the existence of the item. But "the skills" refers to something general. Therefore th...
I will answer this one. Aristotle describe four principal ways "cause" is used, material, formal, efficient, and final. Also he outlined two accidenta...
The problem though, is that "house", referring to something not yet built, is a final cause. You refuse to acknowledge this, and keep trying to portra...
I think what Plato was showing is that persuasive discourse produces friends, and friends are a multitude united as one. The power of the unity of the...
If you acknowledge intention as causal, in the sense of final cause, then you would see that "house being built", as referring to the intention of the...
That's not the case. "Object" is not implied. You are simply saying that whatever it is that the two names refer to, it is one and the same. The issue...
Hey, thanks for the reference Dfpolis. I checked it out, and I think you are vindicated to an extent. Aristotle does discuss this simultaneity of caus...
Yes, something is being acted on, and that is the raw materials. The form of the materials changes due to the activity called "building". That is how ...
Aristotle ruled out "prime matter" as an incoherent concept with his cosmological argument. "Progress" is a judgement in relation to the final cause. ...
I know, but if there is an existing law, and someone does something that is contrary to that law, then that person violates the law. That is a simple ...
You continue to be ridiculous. In the hypothesized scenario there is a builder building a house and there is a house being built. A proper description...
I'd agree except that the law of identity was first, set theory came along after. So set theory violated the law of identity, which was already establ...
As I explained, "the builder building", and "the house being built" are just two different ways of describing the exact same thing. There is no distin...
This is out of context, and misapplied by Df. What is described in your quoted passage is the difference between accidental and essential properties o...
This doesn't make any sense Df. Passion is emotion, feeling. The phrase "the passion of being built doesn't make sense. You claim "passion in the tech...
Great, I prefer the word "equal". It's better suited for that purpose. "Equal" generally allows that the two things which are said to be equal are not...
I don't see how recursion qualifies as an infinite activity. My point has always been that "same" in this context is not consistent with "same" in the...
The necessity is not bilateral because from the perspective of the builder, to build is a freely willed choice. The so-called necessity of "a building...
I do not agree with this interpretation. Aristotle did not distinguish accidental efficient causation from essential efficient causation in the way yo...
See that phrase, "perfect information"? That's why I say formalism attempts to do the impossible. In other words, it assumes an ideal which cannot be ...
I have no problem acknowledging that 2+2=4. I have a problem with people who claim that "2+2" symbolizes the same thing that "4" does. And so, I refus...
Logical equivalence does not imply "the same as". I have no problem with the axiom of extensionality. I have a problem with people who conflate the ax...
Hi Df. Can you clarify this idea for me? How can you conceive of a form of causality which does not involve temporal priority? Suppose God's intention...
I don't think infinite divisibility is a logical possibility, that's the point I'm making. Infinite division is logically impossible. I mean to "divid...
This is very true, and I believe it's a key point toward understanding Aristotle's metaphysics. The teleological aspect of biology necessitates that t...
What I've explained though, is that infinite divisibility is really incoherent due to self-contradiction. So the supertask is not even logically possi...
The problem is the incoherency. Maybe, if there was no incoherency inherent within mathematical objects, they could be true objects. There's still the...
Where do i get one of these metaphysical beers? I clearly explained though, it isn't "infinite" which is incoherent, it is "infinite divisibility" whi...
Assuming lines to be infinitely divisible is problematic, just like assuming time or space to be infinitely divisible is problematic. As much as we li...
The point I've been arguing since the beginning of the thread, is that if we abandon the empirical, and adhere strictly to the prescribed, purely abst...
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