Right, that's my point. A rule can only exist as expressed by language. The rule requires language for it's existence, it is dependent on language. Th...
Yes, now what is the proper "cause" of existence of that baby? Is it the internal activity which happens within the sperm and the egg, or is it the ex...
What he does here is replace "the ideal" with "the goal". The degree of exactitude required in any particular circumstance is relative to "the goal". ...
Yes, I had good reason for asking. You used the phrase "normal circumstances", so I asked for an explanation, how would I know if the circumstances ar...
I don't believe this, I think you're fabricating again. How could there be a rule which was not formulated? There's no such thing as an unformulated r...
I'm not getting you. What's "a rule" other than the statement, do this under these circumstances, or do that under those circumstances? To understand ...
Right, so how would you know whether the circumstances are normal or not, to know whether you ought to doubt your reading or not? What even constitute...
Where's the rule? I don't get it. I don't see it. Right, so I'll repeat the point. If rules only exist as expressed in language, then rules are create...
What rules? Show us one of these rules. All the rules which I know of are expressed with language, so it takes language to make a rule, as far as I un...
Of course, Wittgenstein's empirical explanation is doubtful, and most likely incorrect, as I explained above. Instead of describing "explanation" as a...
I don't understand why you would call this process "external from you". Weren't you internal to your mother, in her womb? That was you in there, in th...
No I don't agree with that. No, I wouldn't say that the originating cause of my existence is myself, that would be nonsense. However, it looks far mor...
The situation is not so simple, as Terrapin explains. If you say that human beings were created at a certain point in time, and insist that the origin...
In response to these questions, this is what I believe. If the Ideal is real, it must be immanent within us, and this would be what you call innate. I...
Welcome to the club. That's the history of the thread, in a nutshell. Yes, you reject all reasonable premises which could explain what you are talking...
I think it may be appropriate to call this section a "de-interiorizing" of rules. The rule is given a physical presence, it stands there, like a sign-...
That there's no one to interpret the dictionary definition of "rock", or the meaning of "rock" in any way,and therefore there is no such thing as "wha...
Yes, I agree with this, it is an objective fact that human beings make these decisions. The issue though, with objective morality, is whether or not t...
The problem here though, is that I've asked you to explain what you mean, in a way that does make sense me, and you've failed to do that. You keep res...
I explained this earlier, one may freely choose to follow a rule. The more relevant question would be whether one could act freely without following a...
Rather than this way is half of irrational, I'd say the other way is doubly irrational. It's just as nonsensical, to talk about years when there's no ...
Half an irrational argument still leaves us with something irrational. S likes to veil behind semantic maneuvers, the simple fact that without anyone ...
I think that this is the importance of 81. It is a separating of the notion of "perfect" from the notion of "ideal", such that perfection can be somet...
The terms of the discussion are specifically: You have failed to explain how "we all died an hour previously" makes any sense at all. Who is going to ...
I think we all tend to look at various different issues, or subjects individually. But the more that we can fit them all into one big picture, the mor...
We've been through this already. Time passes continuously. An hour is a measurement of time. You said it yourself, an hour is a unit of measurement. F...
It's not hard to propose a theory of causation which allows for libertarian free will. It is easily done with dualist principles, and a separation bet...
Right, as an intuition, time for Kant is ideal, just like space. So uniting time with space, as a dimension, naturally follows from this act of classi...
Brett assumes the existence of objective moral principles, so the changes in moral customs over time are downplayed, human beings at some times are ju...
Call "dimensions" "what make standards of measurement possible" if you like, but it's still ideal, just like the idea of "unity", or "unit" is what ma...
I like to put this issue in the context of habits. Sometimes we form bad habits, and they are often difficult to break. We know that the habit is bad,...
This is not a case of that person following a rule though, it is a case of the person's choices following a rule. So you cannot proceed from this prem...
I wouldn't accept the absolute ideality of time either. But S claims that the measurement of time, "an hour" in the op, could occur without a human be...
S continues in refusing to recognize the true nature of temporal existence. Human beings are living at the present, and there is a fundamental differe...
Yes, I would agree that empathy contributes to morality, but in itself as an emotion, it is neither moral nor immoral. And I believe that feelings, em...
If to follow a rule, in the sense of willful human actions, is to hold within one's mind a principle, and adhere to that principle, then all rules are...
As I said, I really don't know what you would mean by "mere logic". Human beings use logic, as a tool like S says, so there's no such thing as logic t...
Logic tells us a lot about the way that the world is. Consider mathematics for example. But I really don't know what you are insinuating with "logic a...
It's demonstrated by logic. That's what logic is good for, telling us about things we haven't experienced. But people like S refuse the logic by findi...
Do you know what non-sequitur means, or do you just use any words in any random way that pleases you? A simple statement of observation cannot be a no...
Plato demonstrated that morality is not simply a matter of knowledge, when he argues against the sophists who claimed to teach virtue. It is often the...
What? You just now realized that my objection to your thought experiment is based in semantics? Right from the beginning, I objected to your use of "a...
If you want to learn about logical fallacies, take an introductory course in logic, or do some reading. It's a good idea. Get real Harry. Do you know ...
You'd have to explain to me what you mean by "our morality is innate". I find this statement to be very vague, ambiguous, and actually not representat...
I don't see how that proves your point. It just indicates that the numerous people measuring the same object use the same standards, and therefore com...
The rock is not "of a certain length" until the length has been ascertained. To say that it is, is contradiction plain and simple. If you really belie...
OK, try this thought experiment. You and I are walking in the woods, and we come across a rock. You say "that rock has a measurement". I say, "no it d...
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