It was quite unclear. Are you saying that your life will begin anew, at your death? I always thought that death was the end of life, and that is final...
So, a set is a class. How's that relevant? Say we're counting books, the set is called "books" then. Do you agree that there must be some of these thi...
I explained to you already why bijection (paring) is an inadequate representation of counting, as defined by you (1). This effort required a number of...
I was talking about truth and falsity in the use of mathematics, and I use these terms in the sense of correspondence with reality. So it's not necess...
Actually, I'm starting to get a real feel for the problem now, and I sincerely want to thank TIDF and fishfry for helping me come to this realization....
The statement is not implied, it is explicit, stated as "first", "second", etc... What is implied, in order that your count be a true count, is that t...
OK, let's proceed using your sense of counting, "assigning successive numbers". Do you agree with me, that when you assign "2" indicating the second o...
Clearly, to see that there are two chairs in front of me, does not require that I associate a number to each of them. Therefore "the count", the deter...
I know what you said. You said "A count (1) implies an ordering". And I'm telling you that this is false for the reasons I explained. There is more th...
Here's an example by analogy. Ordinal numbers are a type of numbers which are used for ordering. Ordering is what defines the "ordinal" aspect, not th...
Right, one is a verb signifying an action, the other is a noun, signifying the result of the action. This is what I have been telling you is incorrect...
That's like when the judge hands down the guilty verdict and thinks: 'that guy was so persistent in his claims of innocence, that I almost feel like l...
The point is that we were talking about a count, which is a measure of quantity, not an order. To use numbers to indicate an order is a different matt...
Involuntary pain and suffering is most often derived in accidental ways, mistakes and not knowing the potential source, and how to prevent it. I do no...
We might say the numbers "one for each object as we count the objects", but that does not mean that we associate "2" solely with the object pointed to...
"Refer" is more general than denote, such that to denote is a specific type of referring. So when we say that a word refers to something, whether that...
The way I see it is that as human beings, we are first and foremost, animals. That's what defines us, although we like to separate ourselves from the ...
That's right, it doesn't preclude that the number is a mathematical object. But the point is that your definition (2) stipulates "the result of counti...
Right, but do you agree that it is necessary that there is a thing counted, a book in this case? So as much as the numeral "1" "denotes" what you call...
I don't agree. One cannot play to win if the person knows that winning is impossible. In a similar way one cannot get the same enjoyment from winning ...
It's not the pain of the opponent which I am talking about here, it's the aspect of the pleasure derived by the winner, which is produced by knowing t...
I do not assume any sets, or numbers, to begin with. Numerals are used fundamentally for counting things, objects like chairs, cars, etc.. There is no...
So this "intensely rewarding experience" which we get from succeeding in competition, you designate as seated in a vice, or vices, This would mean tha...
Participating at TPF has necessitated that I become an expert at grade school principles, because many people here do not seem to understand these ver...
Then I conclude that what needs to be discussed is clarification of P and Q. Whenever we count something it is like this. Count the books on the shelf...
"2+2=green" means that whatever is represented by "2+2" is equal with whatever is represented by "green". Isn't that the way we use logic? We learn to...
I explained this to you already. What results from the application of general relativity, is the conclusion that space is expanding. This separation o...
That's pretty close, except I do not necessarily want to take "2" and "3" as representing unities, that's why I said "if" we want to. I see the numera...
No, I see no problem with that in itself. The problem is when we want to say that, and also that "2" and "3" represent a type of unity. I don't know a...
There is no proposed solution. The issue was stated as a fundamental problem with numbers, without a solution. I am not critiquing anything, the whole...
Let's take an example then, competition. Winning a competition is one of the most intensely rewarding experiences for some people. Even just as a spec...
What do you need a link for? If you don't understand what I said, just show me what you do not understand, and I'll explain. If you understand but dis...
Yes, "bad physics" threads are necessary to bring attention to the fact that even highly intelligent people, like physicists, sometimes are amongst th...
I think that a stable system is not real by the second law of thermodynamics. If "positive feelings" are associated with stability, then we are fighti...
Wow, can you imagine the boredom of being in a spaceship flying to another galaxy? To see what? There must better reasons for wanting an extended life...
There is a fundamental problem with the concept of numbers. The numeral "1" represents a basic unity. an individual. The "2" represents two of those i...
If you use "properties" in that way, referring to the function of a thing, then you must respect that functions which the object does not currently ha...
When you start into basic physics in high school, they'll teach you about waves, and do demonstrations of waves in wave tanks, and you'll learn about ...
I think it is misleading, and therefore incorrect to call this immaterial property "shape". What you describe is that the same physical object can be ...
The existence of waves necessitates the conclusion that there is a substance (commonly referred to as the ether) within which the waves are active. On...
OK, you are excused, but you really do need to pay more attention to subtle differences, something very important in philosophy. Notice the difference...
Hahaha. I assume that's meant as a joke. If not, I feel sorry for you. The need to get what I want, the mother of all necessities. This question is no...
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