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And that's one reason semantic holism is attractive. Is that how you look at meaning?

Where is that from?

Baden. A feature of the present is that Trump declared that he has no problem with Russia's recent acquisitions. A few years back that would have been...

Thanks for the history lesson Baden. LOL.

I baptize a turnip "France." Pierre: "That's not France." Me: "Well, it's not the country whose capital is Paris. That's true. But I'm calling it Fran...

Well.. they don't love us enough. But that wasn't what I've been trying to get across to you and Sapientia. Why do you think Obama is struggling to ge...

I don't know what you're talking about there, Baden. But I'm more than happy to exit the conversation. Peace out.

So we covered this before. Kripke was talking about ordinary language use, so we have to attend to the intentions of the speaker. If what you wrote th...

Suppose the roles were reversed in 1941. The US is struggling. It could use help. Would the British government act to help the US? Yes. It would see w...

If you mean that a possible world is conjured and it's just stipulated that someone named X is there, yes that's what Kripke proposed. The SEP explain...

Blame? There's no big Mommy and Daddy in the sky to do anything with blame. By the time you need valor, you've already seriously screwed up.

Well, there's one way to be sure. Don't smuggle the food.

I assume you mean Don Quixote. Yep. He was awesome.

Eh... Why so preachy Sapientia? You are indirectly the recipient of humanitarian military intervention. Yep.. About a year prior to entry into WW2, th...

Uh... The back story on that is that I had just been through a little discussion with Baden about his trepidation about "humanitarian military interve...

We don't share the same world as much as logic might suggest. Sometimes within the same geographic space multiple worlds rub shoulder without seeing e...

Generally, when dealing with ordinary language use, one would look at an utterer's intention. And of course, pronouns can stand as rigid designators. ...

Some people are just so convinced that they know everything that they aren't able to listen and gain something from the experiences of others.

I assume you don't mean that they're straight. But... philosophy of math is most definitely queer... I mean... really bizarre.

Sorry, I didn't mean that morality is something we make up as we go. It's that question, "How do we know what is true?" There's a lot of on-going nego...

I tell you that eating sugar cubes is immoral. 1. You can agree or disagree, in which case, you treated my assertion as if it's truth apt. 2. You can ...

I think we can wrap this up with agreement that Kripke left the relationship between the designator and designatum unclear. I shouldn't fill in that b...

:D

Right. I assume that Kripke means to address actual utterances because he specifically mentions the speech of average people. I also assume that it's ...

I agree.

I think there is reason to believe that the war on drugs was partly driven by racism. Trump's "law and order" agenda is covertly linked to racism, if ...

Sorry.. just saw this. I think what you aren't considering is that you aren't free to choose the meaning of a statement. You have to bind yourself to ...

I didn't catalog the details. I haven't had any interaction with you where you weren't aggressive and insulting. Maybe I caught you on a bad day and t...

Sorry.. don't know what you're talking about. Let's drop it, shall we?

Ok. Maybe I totally misunderstood. But I'm failing to see how my explanation doesn't follow. Let's look at an example Soames considers. If Saul Kripke...

Read the very passage you mentioned earlier.

Try this: I wonder what would have happened if Napolean hadn't lost at Waterloo. In the process of pondering this, I have conjured up some number of p...

More Pascal, Pierre. You're making up categories of possibility to cover over the underlying ambiguity.

Pierre. You're missing the point. Read N&N a third time. Add in another reading of the Soames. Paris being the capital of France is contingent IFF you...

Think so? Let's ponder a possible world in which France is, in fact, a province of a nation known as the European Union. It's not a country any more t...

Here's where I think you're going wrong. In contemplating a possible world, there is no claim of necessity in regard to any particular property. A cla...

Cool. Maybe you could point out where I'm wrong.

My view is in keeping with Scott Soames' explanation of Kripke's views. Maybe you could add his comments to your tons. :)

I don't think Kripke meant that we work it out in advance. It happens at the very moment we stipulate a possible world. BAM...

And butter?

Yes we can. When we do that, we're using something else to identify France. Something else is being called essential. I guess my question to you would...

I agree. So does Kripke. He says we identify essential properties by testing the limits of imagination.

Yep. Kripke says "Possible worlds are stipulated, not discovered." I told you there's a duck/rabbit aspect to this. I told you that all you have to do...

Sorry dude. I don't think we're talking about the same Kripke.

The actual France (whose capital is Paris) can not be identical to an alternate France (whose capital is Caen). That's pretty basic. It's two differen...

Hopefully people who talk about alternate capitals for France know that they're talking about an alternate reality. The actual France can not be ident...

I think of "empirical" as a type of justification. You're talking about actuality. I think I understand what you're saying. Say I toss a die... howeve...

No. It wouldn't commit me to saying France can't change its capital. Among the essential features of what we call France is that for a period of time ...

It has nothing to do with misreading Kripke. It has to do with your inflexibility about essence. I think there's a lot more duck/rabbit to this than y...