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No this is not what I'm doing, you assumed that I was going to talk about God, that I am a believer and that my line would be what you allude to here....

As I said, earlier it depends on what conception of God one is considering, namely one provided by religion, or something more subtle. The more subtle...

You guys are like a room full of puppys. It's quite simple. You see that Colin has had mental health issues, so he must be delusional. This does not f...

It can't make that claim, that there is no God.

Yes I thought it was a joke. If gods exists nothing would change, or be any different. Apo's metaphysics would be equally valid, the only difference t...

I'm going to the Rothko and Pollock show at the royal Academy next week, I can't wait. It's good art not like the s--t that's usually on offer at the ...

Presumably you haven't experienced God as Colin has, or you wouldn't be bothering to write this.

I'm happy for you Colin, if you're still reading the thread, although that might not be a good idea. Or perhaps actually it affirms your new discovery...

The cats not stupid, in a way, perhaps mostly subconsciously, she does know what's going on, I've clocked that. More so, as multicellular organisms, w...

Not necessarily, perhaps if by God we mean a bearded sky daddy( or conceptions normally provided by religion) but otherwise, for more sophisticated co...

But say we do come up with the theory of everything, do feel the whole elephant, all we're doing is describing the world we find ourselves in. Fine, i...

I think the noumenon is poorly defined. As I see it the noumenon is the only actually existing substance(in our world). I agree it can be divided into...

Yes, spirit works for me, I prefer atman because it fits into a comprehensive philosophy and practice in Hinduism and my mysticism is primarily based ...

So is there a ghost in the machine after all?

Nice Parmenides quote. It illustrates nicely the objection from the perspective of spirit and the broader view.

Get ready for the dance of the seven veils;)

It's worse than that, time like space is a result of extension. Pondering the products of extension doesn't tell us anything about the nature of the o...

I agree with your point, but I would point out that within experience there is often a component in which the material (body) of the self undergoes mo...

I may appear to be attempting to reduce the noumenon to a conceptual space, but this conceptual space is a tool of apprehension in a sense, used in co...

Well yes this can work as a rationalisation, but to relegate the noumenon to a "mental construct" is to ignore its possible existence external to the ...

Yes, via the philosophical rational route perhaps, but there are other ways to know the noumenon, to reconcile ourselves with our predicament and look...

Ok, thanks. I am not likely to read Schopenhauer any time soon as my lifestyle is to busy to do much reading at the moment. It does sound like a nod i...

Yes, I'm inclined to agree with this, but I am an insatiable explorer of ideas, a magpie perhaps. Also I have come across some rarefied ideas and it's...

I understand what you say here, it's interesting, but quite different to my perspective. So are you saying that it is the will which is directing the ...

I haven't read Kant yet, so will take your word for it for now. I do think that the noumenon is knowable, but not because of the findings of a philoso...

Yes I agree, however this does not prevent my enquiry. I have mentioned, I think, that the living of experience is more than our conscious experience ...

Yes I know what you say about the way we are conditioned to view the physical world as given by science etc, and that the noumenal is some kind of sha...

Yes I understand what you are saying and I would largely agree. However I would add that where you say "just the logical projection of our in-common p...

Yes, but some would say "you are the noumenon, how could you be anything else?". This would suggest that to know the noumenon is to know yourself. To ...

So it is a foil, or mirror of our evolutionarily inherited traits?

Do you know who you are?

Well I think we do know it because we are it, of it. Although we may not understand what it is we know.

Agreed.

Thanks, let's say there is will and representation going on. Is this in the sense in which this process results in our finding ourselves in the world ...

Yes, it looks as though I am asking about Thing-in-itself. Is this what Schopenhauer was talking about in the work of his that you mentioned?

So did Schopenhauer use the classical definition of the noumenon? I understand he was critical of Kant's use of the word in saying it amounts to the t...

So "ideal object" is an object of thought, as opposed to an object of the senses. Yes I understand this, but it seems to be suggesting that the noumen...

I'm thinking more about the object of sense, although also the ideal object in the sense that it might take a form beyond its conception in the mind o...

Perhaps it is thought that is the blinker. Thanks for the link to Stove's Gem, I'll have a look.

It's a quandry for me and I see it as an issue which philosophy has a requirement to address. Presumably unless one is an idealist (and idealists migh...

As this gets deeper it is more difficult for me to explain using philosophical terminology, as I don't routinely use that for such explanations, so yo...

I agree with you and John and Wayfarer because for me those things which are considered in some way external to the world, mind, consciousness and exp...

Beyond the end of our nose?

Let me guess, it never reaches absolute zero, or in other words it takes an infinity of time to get there. I was thinking that in these physical model...

I agree, but I think it is dependent on the direction in which the intuition is directed and that the results are correctly interpreted. This does req...

Yes your analogy of playing a game chimes for me. I have found that this process of loosing one's self in the "game" is an interesting phenomena and s...

Yes we cannot think our way there (to the noumenon) in isolation. However it has occurred to me that there are at least two other routes, which if whe...

I have personally experienced the presence of the sacred, what I mean is that I have witnessed people in a state of overwhelming awe in the presence o...

I can't see how solipsism is inconsistent and contradictory. Perhaps an absolute solipsism is, but that's not what solipsists are proposing as far as ...

I spent years arguing this on the skeptics (Randi) forum(it was a lot of fun by the way). I would always fall back on the presence of consciousness(mi...