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They're social animals, like almost all animals are. The notion of "absence" -- many animals possess this. That notion is very strong when they first ...

No, he makes things too complicated what could be explained in shorter, simpler words. From latin definition. Sorry to know about it. :( Yes, give her...

Tough love. :smile:

Heidegger is dense. I gave up reading him.

All existents are entities. So yeah, objects are entities. But beings are reserved for those with subjective perception.

Objects are entities.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree with Hawking. Guess who the pundits turn to for moral support and consolations during economic collapse, public upheava...

Here's one I copied: When you are content to be simply yourself and don't compare or compete, everyone will respect you. ? Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

Rant about something. It's good for your blood. I meant to say, it's good for your soul. :sad:

So I'm trying to remember what I said there. Yes. Good advice.

Apologies. I've forgotten I've contributed to that thread (?) But this should be good. I didn't see this until now. :sad:

I've lost interest in poems. But prose has always been attractive. Most especially when a mathematician decides to write an essay. The musings of a ma...

We could see it hyperbolically. But only if we think hyperbolic, not the classical shape.

Then you must not have studied the classics. Was it Plato who complained about the incompetence of his fellow students? The budding philosophers at th...

Good read. I like Peter Singer.

Kant's end-in-itself is reserved for rational beings, meaning humans. So, we can't cite Kant here. To overtly state that animals are innocent bystande...

Let's start here. What would it take to have some form of humane treatment for the animals.

Another facetious remark. *Sigh*

Right, rights. Since some of you have been pushing for animal rights, my response is, yes let's give them rights, but that isn't strong enough. I alre...

That's why I went back to the basics -- the will, where everyone has equal shot at getting acknowledgement. Animals can't win when we start talking ab...

But this is a facetious comment. I never said that they have rationality, an element of moral system. Does it even occur to us what should be our role...

Obviously, this is not exhaustive of all the issues we could talk about vaccination. We are just touching the surface, giving cursory treatment of the...

"admitting such decision" -- should we accept an individual subjective decision - not get vaccinated -- into our system? Maybe not well chosen words b...

:) So this is another individual subjective principle of our moral system. An individual decides not to get vaccinated, and when afflicted with virus,...

In that case, no isn't against our moral system to treat animals as innocent, and with respect. All moral agents are presumed to have the ability to t...

Maybe we should start a new thread on this as we are hijacking Shawn's animal thread. What do you think? I will respond at the new thread.

No, it isn't a luxury for those with leisure. (It is morally hazardous to take examples like this and attribute it to false dilemma) Rather, in this s...

Talk to me then, like you mean it.

On the contrary, will is material to conferring rights to an entity. I said several posts earlier that while I am for animal rights, it is really our ...

They have a will to live.

hahaha! :sweat: That's how I ruined something in my life. Good God, James! How the fuck! Sorry for the f-word.

No, not symbolic as humans have. But communication nonetheless, like wolves have. C'mon Wayfarer.

It's a nice metaphor. Sorry but not I would call serious talk here.

But it is communication.

Except that they've been doing that before humans came into existence. Though I should have qualified my statement of will as that of animals, vertebr...

And animal vocalization is not language? Okay. Maybe so. But it is communication, though not articulation.

Through observation. And if you're not sure of people's observations, including yours, then consult the animal behaviorists. Animals do not act out of...

Not really.

Do animals farm and breed animals?

Reduce consumption overall. It's not an overnight thing. But conscious deliberate mindfulness.

And so we cannot change?

So do we hunt like animals? Or farm and breed animals?

Why do you argue in false dilemma all the time? Is this the only way you can think? You're still not getting my point. Human will is the same as anima...

Yes. And does this extend to the argument that we can therefore hunt like animals do?

No. It is possible to live without eating animals. It is not either we eat or die. No one said you can't eat.

This is the fallacy of false dilemma. Dramatic, yes, but fallacy nonetheless.

Please explain. I just said it is not the only perspective. What you're saying is, that's the only acceptable perspective for you.

Incorrect.

There is indeed something more to be said about this point. There's an unsettling thing in saying, in order for animals to be treated with respect the...