charleton

The mechanisms of capitalism regardless of a narrow idealistic viewpoint is more likely to lead to the horror I suggest. Te question is who owns the w...

Why not address your subjective assumptions?

The Big Bang is not an example of creation.

On what grounds? And what do you mean 'objective' in this context?

No way. Ideal capitalism is one massive fat person owning everything in the world; the end game of competition, with the rest of the world dancing han...

That just about sums you up perfectly. Your absurdity is the claim that your narrowly focused and narrow minded moral code is universal in some way. T...

You are only pointing out your own flaws my friend. and you continue to avoid answering the question; please furnish the thread with some examples of ...

Maybe you need to get out and see something of the world. Go here! https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@13.4123884,103.866747,67m/data=!3m1!1e3 Sit in the c...

This perforce is false since the "world" is not created, nor can it be said to have 'powers', and that would involve some sort of volition.

Please refer to the post I made above.

No they are not. They are the result of my experience with these issues, and are therefore subjective. It's like you don't know what objective means.

LOL Define definitional!!

If you are going to use this absurd line of reasoning how can you claim that moral law is objective? When it is demonstrable that morals are different...

In today's terms it would equate to workers co-operatives. The state's role would be provide legal frameworks for them to operate fairly. This has nev...

No it is not. Marx and his followers have always enjoined the class struggle.

Spoken like a true Trumper. It's so sad, really sad. In fact that is the mosted sadness of all.

This is the complete converse of reality.

Please do not use god in this way again to me.

Off topic and overly pedantic. I see no value in pursuing this line of enquiry.

If god is all powerful then what use is there asking this? He's going to do it his way whatever you say.

it's late! G'Night

You fail to understand the regard of that the author of Job, had of god. You are just shoe-horning your own view of god where is does not fit. The aut...

No I'm not suggesting. The Book of Job insists upon it.

Man is mortal is tautological is man is mortal is definitive. And since none are claiming there are immortal men, then the point is mute. Whatever you...

The Koran is much worst for inaccuracies, contradictions, hatred and immorality. What is the message of the OT?? The message that you want to characte...

It's not even a caricature. You said not to take it literally. But this is just an excuse to avoid inferring the capricious nature of god, which was m...

Duh. I'm not claiming that. The Bible is.

Justeight miles away from the incident at Porton Down (defence facility) are quantities of ALL know chemical weapons where they are in continual resea...

No. These are vastly different cases. This is a valid question.

The devout propagate the idea that genocide misogyny and rape are okay by propagating the Bible as the word of God. What do you not understand by this...

Since by your own admission you reject any use the Bible might have in giving us an insight into gods moral guidance I cant see what your argument is ...

You are not paying attention.

What that you find it boring?? What sort of argument is that?

The verification of immortality is a practical impossibility. Since immortality can only be verified at the end of time - and the end of time would ma...

That is not what I said. You love to put words into another's mouth. They call that a straw man. But they are guilty by association if they continue t...

It's not a counter argument of any strength, since millions have taken the Bible as their example for thousands of years.

Please read the top quote!! I sometimes despair of the treacle I have to wade through to get some sense in here. YOU, accused ME of a flaw, when what ...

Yes. design by committee is one valid conclusion of many living examples. And if it were not for the evolutionary time-frame, one might have to conclu...

Yes "men are mortal".

I not claiming to the contrary.

Misogynism, Terroism and Genocide perfect examples for the world of the devout.

Only because you have failed to see its importance. What God would allow millions of believers for thousands of years to follow those writing and the ...

Well you got that right at least.

No - that's the Bible doing that. Read it again! More evidence that atheists know their Bible with more detail than the believer.

Vicissitudes is a cracker of a word. I regard the calumnies I have to suffer to read are amongst the worse of the Vicissitudes encountered on this For...

Nothing happens accidentally. I would go so far as to suggest that the poison was administered by the UK, Israel, or any other player wishing to discr...

Law is the practical outcome of the moral case. A thing legal is taken to be moral.

I'm still waiting for your claim of objective morality to be substantiated. Do you think it was moral of God to give Lot a lifetime of torture just to...

What did not throw down on Lot FOR A BET with Satan? It's like you've not understood the most basic fact of the story!

The Tories have consistently blocked further investigation into the death of Litvinjenko, assassinated for his pro-democracy and -press freedoms. But ...