Fire Ologist

Sort of an impasse between the pot and the kettle. That’s fine too, but that’s the end of the conversation again. You dont have to keep at it. But I d...

The second sentence you refer to as “indecipherable” is a quote from you. It’s now in 3 below. 1. Believing is holding that something is true. 2. In t...

Really? I was fairly clear. I even used your words as much as possible. You need to explain how you are saying something decipherable, when you tell a...

My post last night was too long. See if this is friendlier: 1. Right. Without intending to lose any of your meaning here, I would say the same thing: ...

Willful ignorance maybe? Does that have any place in this thread? Anselm and Aquinas weren’t doing the faith thing. They weren’t talking about their f...

There is one point in the OP, reflected in the above, on which I have agreed from the start. Anselm and Aquinas were trying to be logical and create k...

Hey Enoah. So let’s collapse the dualism. Mind IS body. We live inside the illlusion. If we collapse it all back together, we can call the illusion re...

I was just trying to show no parental supervision needed here, in case a mod thought they needed to step into Fdrake’s shoes.

I’m going to do my best and say where I agree with what you are saying. Sound valid arguments establish a necessary conclusion. 100% Let’s call this k...

I agree. I’m also saying identifying one single tone is a collection recognized as such as well.

I’m chillin. I think we are getting somewhere. Will get back to DifferentiatingEgg shortly.

Emotional handling. I guess I see a glimmer of hope. So point taken.

For you? Even though I have no faith you want to see what I’m saying, kind of like you know I don’t see what you are saying? Well ok. The scale you bu...

Well then “spewing logical fallacies” can’t be “just preaching” So which is it? In your fallacy spotting opinion.

That contradicts your whole “opinion”. I thought logical fallacies, identified only by using reason, had nothing to do with faith. Try again. Jung is ...

Wandering off into the mountaintops again… You made the objective statement faith precludes reason. Bonehead.

I thought you were trying to say something for Christians who are just people lying, so saying something about people in general - sifting the faithfu...

I think I’m saying the same thing but would say it like this: In a field of overlapping fields, I gather or isolate tone A. Then I put it down and sub...

Just to slow “things” way down and see if I know what you mean (or if you know what my questions are getting at, either way.) In a discussion framed i...

This sounds like knowledge (science/reason) has to be on a different scale than a faith would. Otherwise you couldn't "place faith IN science"; some f...

But does that also mean you either have absolute knowledge of something and everything less than absolute knowledge brings some faith with it? So all ...

So you have some knowledge all along the process, more or less cards counted. And so you are saying that faith (maybe in an extreme blind form) includ...

All the moving parts of my analysis are right there. I know. I don’t know. I have faith. And I act - namely, express an opinion. So since you have fai...

Diff - you haven’t addressed the above on your scale of faith versus “reason based thought.” So when you are believing, knowledge and reason are absen...

Me too. It’s because faith isn’t the opposite of reason. If you made the two opposites Reason and No-reason or Irrationality, then faith or belief wou...

Everything is on a scale for you. Very rigid, linear thinking.

Wise choice of word. There is no mental act without “reason based thought”, without intellect, in the mix. So it is rubbish to talk of a mental act li...

That’s right. He’s saying “positing a logical credibility to an argument for God undermines the credibility of faith for that same God. I think argume...

Like it. “We do have faith…” becomes “We do not have grounds to doubt…”. Puts a bit of a negative spin on it, but if it is more precise to you it stil...

This same subject is all over so many different threads. It’s the central issue of philosophy if you ask me. Here posed with a moral object “good heal...

I agree with the spirit of your argument, with what you are trying to say. But I think you draw too stark a line inside the mind of the person who wou...

:100: although I’d say we need to remove the word “indeed” and pull that parenthetical out of the parentheses in line with the rest of the statement. ...

Every stance in these discussions is precarious. I see a tension between inclusion of diversity (yielding adaptability, other goods, etc) and exclusio...

I agree that a good teacher will have to find different ways to teach different students, that there isn’t one form of education, one way of learning,...

My question is actually for the guy with the boot, not the guy with the boot on his neck. The guy who persecutes other people based on race is the chi...

Without any judgment on the merits, couldn’t that lack of award simply point out that more folks besides Russell misunderstood Nietzsche? Or maybe the...

So he’s flipping it back. It’s the flip that’s my point. In order to show how the shallow lovers of form (Plato, Socrates, slave moralists) built a wo...

This question is the nut of philosophy to me, reframed since before the time of Plato’s cave. You just raised an analogy with water to describe the fl...

“…he wasn’t…” You said what is not. You didn’t say what is. So nothing to discuss in this whole passage besides me. “…you should….” No new content. Oh...

Depends on what you mean by the world. If you mean my family and neighbors and friends and the 50 yards of space that follows me around everywhere I g...

I picked up on that bit from your OP. Sounds like a new rule for all posts.

Sad that I think this way, or sad for the state of human beings? Ok, so if you’ve rid yourself, then you aren’t sad that I think this way, you do as w...

And maybe some non-culturally appropriated refreshments.

Or just realism, meaning the fate of the world improvement certainly is not in our hands, no matter how much we think of our abilities - we are the on...

So matters involving people are complicated? Helpful tip. Then maybe the first question should be, do we really want to take the time to have this con...

You seem to be at a real crossroads because of this issue. I’m going to step way, way back for a second. What if one’s only obligation is to please Go...

I agree wholeheartedly. We are too quick to ignore the individual we engage with on the issue of race, and too afraid to be the individuals we are whe...

Tim asked what changes. You answered “physical”. That’s not a clear or precise answer. Physical what? Changes in what way? Change occurs in time. But ...

That’s the crux of the objections to seeking a rule. There is no universal rule to devise to prevent the problem you are having that doesn’t limit spe...

I’m glad you responded with a small move towards a conversation. Although you are still in school teaching me, the student. It is my claim that Nietzs...