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Pardon my presumptuous intrusion. My hastily surfacing answer is, "nothing." No so called lesser animal (a label which I dispute) has any hope/fear of...

Nice, Fire. The hypothetical moment when "we" divided/displaced "God's creation" our natural selves, with our constructions, choosing knowledge over l...

Though you are far from the point I'm about to make, and I apologize for "mishandling" yours. But for me, you have illustrated exactly the way I belie...

My understanding, which I will confirm in advance, won't be presented through syllogism (though I admire and respect that process). The point you--in ...

First, I apologize for not responding in one post. Secondly, your logic seems (to me, not a technician) very tight and I cannot at my skill level, nav...

And, yet, I settle at the same conclusion. I believe it, not because it is true, it is true because the mechanism of belief was triggered at the end o...

If you assume that that "someting" is unlike the stance, a thing so called "out there" in the real world independent of Mind. If you assume the stance...

that, we are.

Not sure I understand. My interest in malleablity is not per se driven by any moral drive. Rather, I'm suggesting--under the influence of Zhuangzi--th...

Hmm. Intuition tells me to look into that further, but on the face of it, I'd say no. I'm, maybe being "hard" regarding malleabiliy. But that's not wh...

I personally prefer the opposite (not necessarily as a moral position, but as a functional position--if the two are mutually exclusive, which, I think...

Very nice.. I misunderstood. Not anymore. Thank you. Here, I diverge. But no worries, armed with the info above, it is clear to me, how and why. Under...

Good one. Will rethink with that.

Nice Yes. I get that . You're probably properly using "object" associating it with "objective" and thus present, not a fleeting nothing. Fair enough. ...

And that's when you finally see the good in the world?

I think you could say that about everything. Take apple. I wasn't born knowing it. Nor did it ever instantly come to me. As I first learned it, I migh...

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It's because I'm atonal, mixing with an arid humor.

I think this topic betrays the underlying current of art which--like it or not--drives all philosophy. Also, ultimately, if it were a Simulation (whic...

Interesting, your discussion of "representation." I do not believe the universe is a simulation. And I don't believe our experiences are or are a part...

You could start (and end) with his letter to the Galatians. But as I said, I don't think Paul was being antisemitic per se. Paul himself, Jewish, and ...

I agree with you that that is what it is, and I fully agree with and cannot argue against the functionality of it. But tragically, a thing all of huma...

Yah. I think you're right. But dont tell anybody, or it's over (the way I'm reading it--for what is the brain, but us?).

I agree with that. Would you entertain this read of that? Maybe it is implied in that, I don't want to presume either way. Feel free to shift your rea...

Actually, I did. And I was content to stay there. I think you were right, philosophy is not "ones philosophy." I think (I'll carry on as though I'm su...

Ok, yah, that. Sorry.

Isn't by "consciousness" not necessarily my deepest thoughts? Because you're right. But rather, a reflection on that thing, consciousness, and the wha...

Bitconnect, I'm an admirer of your thinking on other threads, outside of this (perhaps personal(?) and understandably so) one. I'm just saying, I don'...

I think, if there is (a) god(s), and our conventional constructions hold true, that god(s) would "see" through our self-serving reasons. In that sense...

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say I've been reading much, and especially not all the religious books. But I had already agreed with you about a ric...

hah! :up:

And maybe that is expressing the closest approach within "reason" i.e., before the inevitable firewalls: paradox, contradiction (inevitable; not the k...

The problem is, like philosophy, science, social sciences, and humanities, some of it inevitably reveals itself to be fiction, some has a much longer ...

This is not intended to be remotely flippant, but, yah, they are all just illusory distinctions and therefore no one needs anything to go on. That is ...

Agreed! You are right. There are both subjective and objective provided human mind is processing/projecting the world. I revise/advance my thinking to...

a "sense" of self. What if it's stop right there? I don't like the word "illusion" but it's being used in this thread. So, if you replace "sense" with...

But if that "subjective knowledge of objective facts," is itself not what it proclaims with the word "knowledge." (I am already with you that this is ...

Totally. To add to your observation, I have found that, not only is it fact based rather than "skill" based; but, the "skills" which are taught are no...

Apologies.

Most "Hindus" would say, that vis a vis the only ultimate reality, everything projected into the world is ultimately a fiction and yet we have been de...

Ok, I did read that in your previous comments. Perhaps I superimposed a more polemical tone in how I read some of the "cloudier" language. Since that'...

In our conventions that's an acceptable statement. I'm suggesting on an alternative analysis its "meaning" is (temporarily) "constructed" in the expre...

What I'm meaning to say is one looks at a random dead body and the Truth of that, whatever it is, just is. But the instant one thinks or expresses "th...

Because it didn't suit the "orthodox" agenda, right? It was too gnostic. It presented too "mystical" a Jesus and ignored the urgency of the parousia w...

We've had our back and forth earlier and I was content to adjourn. But I am truly confused by your insistence and am curious to understand. I still th...

Lest you think I misunderstood (or, I'm case I did) in the scenario above, I would say death and its body are what they are. The moment a member of th...

I agree with a variation/qualifier (unless, I misunderstand and I simply agree). My qualifier is that there is neither subjective nor objective truths...

Consider there's no real subjective/objective, but, rather only expressing. Words are projected into the world "I like Ice cream," and received by oth...

A possible "explanation": you are describing a scenario where an unfamiliar feeling arises in your body. Your mind is at a loss to describe it because...

Ok. Please, how? Not just the one I proposed. How does it close the book on everything? And (not having reflected deeply on it) this is not the sort o...