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I am so lost here. Where did I assert an absolute criterion? Is that following from the fact that some narratives are acceptable for only one sort of ...
June 18, 2025 at 22:09
Touché. Maybe I'm tired! :grin:
June 18, 2025 at 20:54
I think I understand your question, but tell me if I've got it wrong. I think you're asking whether the truth of the "Some narratives . . ." statement...
June 18, 2025 at 20:53
Oh, no, sorry if I wasn't clear. Musicology does much more than try to make aesthetic judgments -- in fact, it rather rarely does that. It's a "human ...
June 18, 2025 at 20:47
Sorry -- by "this" do you mean the quoted statement beginning "Some narratives . . ."?
June 18, 2025 at 20:09
As I said, I think @"Banno" has said most of what I would want to say about that, but perhaps an example will help: Some narratives are acceptable, tr...
June 18, 2025 at 19:54
You're right, "authoritarian" isn't a very good term for anything other than humans. My "Well, yes" was meant as an answer to the second question, "Is...
June 18, 2025 at 19:18
Funny! (You do know it's "Consciousness Explained," right?) My point wasn't about agreement -- as I said, I don't agree with him at all -- but rather ...
June 18, 2025 at 16:31
I don't agree with Dennett's viewpoint any more than you do, but if he was really "irrational beyond words" and showed "utter disregard" for clear evi...
June 18, 2025 at 16:04
I think Dennett had a great imagination, and I might have agreed he was more imaginative than Chalmers -- until "Reality +" came out a couple of years...
June 18, 2025 at 14:59
OK, with the mods' permission, here's a link to a song my band did about Zizek, my least favorite philosopher. Just for fun, apologies if you're a Ziz...
June 18, 2025 at 14:13
Good joke, and just to be clear: We can say more, using language in all of its delightful manifestations, we just can't say more in rational discourse...
June 18, 2025 at 14:00
OK, I see where you're coming from. Most of philosophy, in that sense, isn't very useful, I agree.
June 17, 2025 at 18:04
Yes, this can get complicated and nit-picky very quickly, and I doubt that we really disagree about assertions. What I'm claiming is that it takes mor...
June 17, 2025 at 17:19
In this context, I meant philosophically helpful or provocative -- something worth our time to understand. Is there a way you prefer to think of it? -...
June 17, 2025 at 16:44
Fair enough. My nice division into steps is oversimplistic. I dunno, the aporetic dialogues of Plato seem quite useful. But we may be saying the same ...
June 17, 2025 at 14:37
What we've seen in the threads about Frege, Kimhi, and Rodl is that we can't rest content with this formulation. Consider what you just "said": "a man...
June 17, 2025 at 14:28
Yes, and we shouldn't find this surprising or confusing. What philosophy can talk about is not the same thing as what philosophy can mention or acknow...
June 17, 2025 at 13:18
There's a lot of truth in this, but I want to dwell on why it appears this way. Let's take math. Is math authoritarian? Is it structured to preclude o...
June 17, 2025 at 13:00
So I guess it is a philosophical question!
June 17, 2025 at 00:40
If we're not careful, this is going to turn into a wrangle about the correct definition of "philosophy." NOOOooooo! :groan:
June 17, 2025 at 00:38
That's plenty good enough for me. So what we'd like to see a lot less of, both on TPF and in general, is the sort of interpretation -- if I can even c...
June 17, 2025 at 00:35
Yes, I see what you mean, except . . . I really did mean "the barest glimpse," i.e., people who've read a little bit of K or A or W in a class and fee...
June 16, 2025 at 23:01
And a very good one. Now suppose I ask, "What kind of question is that?" I'm genuinely interested in your answer; for what it's worth, mine is, "It's ...
June 16, 2025 at 22:40
Sure, and that's why a charitable reading can be important. You can help make the position clearer and more compelling! (And maybe start by discarding...
June 16, 2025 at 18:11
I hadn't thought about the Tarksi/Kripke angle. The "cost," when it comes to a philosophical Theory of Everything, may be something very much like thi...
June 16, 2025 at 12:55
Yes, and consider the context: He was speaking to students, young minds, and urging us to develop good habits, not necessarily to practice this kind o...
June 16, 2025 at 00:54
Glad you liked it. And a thorough understanding of a difficult position you're pretty sure you won't end up agreeing with is really hard! But if you d...
June 15, 2025 at 21:24
Your OP has already generated a lot of the good discussion it so richly deserves. I'll chime in on two points. The first relates to the quote above. A...
June 15, 2025 at 20:59
Well done! I'm looking forward to responding soon . . .
June 15, 2025 at 12:19
Yet more subtleties, but you're right to bring them up. The first response cashes out to "I call this warm, because I'm comparing it to some even cold...
June 15, 2025 at 00:59
Ordinarily, just talking, I think we would use the word "wrong": "No, you're wrong, it's freezing out!" I hear you asking what, exactly, is being call...
June 14, 2025 at 12:43
I don't find the view you're sketching here to be absurd, or impossible, or even implausible. It may even be the case that we don't significantly disa...
June 13, 2025 at 13:28
Good, and your experience with your granddaughter illustrates it beautifully. That's where I come out too -- "private language" is a bizarre if useful...
June 13, 2025 at 13:09
Right. One interesting feature of the aha! experience is how strongly it causes us to believe we have understood. I'm guessing this is because, taken ...
June 13, 2025 at 01:16
And that is by and large a good idea, which I appreciate. We don't want to be taking words like "private" or "mental" to imply some lonely kingdom we ...
June 12, 2025 at 17:51
"Things are as they are to us." The idea is that "the rock" is a construct, a very useful and non-arbitrary and important one for us. But for all we k...
June 12, 2025 at 17:09
Our posts just crossed! So, as to this: That's what I'm questioning. Why couldn't it be true that we need reference equally to talk to ourselves? I'm ...
June 12, 2025 at 16:40
I think this highlights the question we're discussing. I'm just thinking this through myself, but there has to be a difference between "private langua...
June 12, 2025 at 16:37
That's certainly how it seems to me, and for the same reasons you cite, but I want to understand why @"Banno" might think otherwise. Same point. Surel...
June 12, 2025 at 13:50
“Everything is relative. There’s no true or false. There’s no right and wrong.” “But I don’t agree with that.” “Then you’re wrong!” In an earlier thre...
June 12, 2025 at 13:43
I think it's a little more radical than that. Consider any physical object - the ever-useful rock example, let's say. But now wait a minute . . . what...
June 12, 2025 at 13:24
I'm able to distinguish, in my own mental experience, a type of (purported) understanding that is best pictured as "the light bulb going on." It doesn...
June 12, 2025 at 12:54
I think it's yet a third thing: The reference is fixed by the description "the man about whom I say . . ."
June 12, 2025 at 12:32
This is interesting, thanks. My question to @"Banno" focused on something a little different. If we say that reference, as a matter of fact, requires ...
June 12, 2025 at 12:30
Good, I was making the same point -- neither more nor less reliable. I don't think so. The distinction I'm making isn't about degrees of certainty. It...
June 12, 2025 at 00:52
At least start with "describe," especially if some analysis and discrimination of terms is likely to be needed. Having done that as best we can, I'm f...
June 12, 2025 at 00:39
Yes, this is more like it. I wasn't comfortable with privileging "emotions" quite so centrally.
June 12, 2025 at 00:33
Not to put you on the spot, but are you saying that reference in fact requires triangulation, or only that we should reserve the term "reference" for ...
June 11, 2025 at 23:04
Perhaps it is, rather, but I'm certainly familiar with it. As in my "pile of papers" example (which the bolded addition is meant to capture), I find I...
June 11, 2025 at 22:59