Why do you think the truth is owed in the first place? Even moralists who prohibit lying seldom say such a thing. It's not at all clear what "eroding ...
- The contradiction is very much present in your posts. For example: "We can say it is true now or we can now say it is true that the planet will stil...
And you could paraphrase the health statement as, "Your health will improve* if you engage in healthy activities." I don't see any difference. Rather,...
- :up: A few days ago Peter Singer did an informal interview where he defends moral realism, which is helpful given his atheism: https://www.youtube.c...
You are running in the same circles as Janus. The point has nothing to do with speech. It has to do with truth. You want something to "be the case" wh...
But we've already been over this. To predicate existence of something is to predicate a truth. Is your claim about existence supposed to have nothing ...
- You and @"Banno" are simply contradicting yourselves. You think truth is and is not dependent on minds. I'm not sure what else there is to say here....
- Maybe you should make a new movie where humans are enslaved, and then the protagonist comes along, and instead of trying to free them, merely tries ...
No, it's really not. I mean, sure, coercion is evil, but it's not at all the point of the movie. You seem like a liberal or libertarian who has tried ...
- If you don't think red > blue then I'm not sure we watched the same movie. The goal of "freeing minds" is not to let them choose between red and blu...
But that's why I brought him up. "You are beginning to look a lot like Cypher here." "Cypher is teh best!" :razz: If the whole premise of The Matrix i...
- Cypher was nowhere near the protagonist. He is presented as an evil character who betrays his friends and chooses a false simulation over reality. I...
In that case, my difficulty with the OP is that we are trying to get degrees out of the substance/mode binary. Maybe that can be done, but at face val...
- What's odd to me about @"Patterner"'s claim is that it is diametrically opposed to the entire thrust of the movie. He is saying that the Architect a...
How could it not? You want to say that if all minds ceased to exist, it both would and would not be true that there is gold in Boora. On the one hand ...
I find this thread dizzying. I don't understand what anyone is saying or why anyone thinks their implicit inferences are valid. We are moving from 17t...
Which is to say that Cypher thinks that The Matrix is more real than the real world, no? If your measurement is experience, and Cypher thinks The Matr...
Yep, and this goes to @"Srap Tasmaner"'s notion of "degenerate cases" (of, say, the material conditional). If one does not see logic as teleological, ...
You haven't shown your defense to be coherent: "X will be tomorrow"? What does that mean, other than, "X will be true tomorrow?" As I said above, ther...
Except "that something will exist" is a propositional truth. So he hasn't managed to speak about existence apart from propositions and truth. I have t...
But her existence is equally dependent on her mother. Arguably, you are less real because you're farther back the line. The train engine is most real....
Do you want to say that, "X will be true tomorrow," is different from, "Tomorrow, X will be true"? I don't see a proper distinction between the two. B...
I never said it was. I was answering your question about eugenics. At the very least I would say that is impermissible on account of societal example ...
I am saying that any form of eugenics which falls under the principle set out is not immoral/impermissible. To give you an example of this, when a cou...
I would apply the principle that it is never immoral to abstain from copulation in view of the extreme hardship that would result on the part of the p...
This presupposes beforehand that there is something wrong with it. We don't worry about "conditions for consent" when it comes to neutral acts. The pr...
You said: Who agrees with you? Not Morpheus, Trinity, Neo, etc. Not Cypher. He thinks the Matrix is better than the real world, but not "just as real....
Yes, something like that. <A valid argument with a false premise will result in a false conclusion> That seems intuitively correct. This may be close ...
That is a very thin attempt at an explanation. What are the two putatively different claims, how are they different, and which one am I supposed to be...
Yes, but I think that all arguments are, structurally, modus ponens. This goes back to the earlier point about whether all arguments are modus ponens,...
In Aristotelian terms, we would say that (1) is a proper accident of validity. It is not the essence of validity, and yet every valid argument will po...
The fact that they refuse a rewrite and Cypher desires it just shows that the experience of the one who takes a blue pill is different from the experi...
But Cypher is the only one who agrees with you. He wants to be rewritten to forget about the real world (and also his betrayal). You're really opting ...
There are lots of niches in sprawling enterprises, and when everyone can set up shop in their own niche and be the resident expert there, pride finds ...
I think that's right. I think you've got the horse pulling the cart. I don't see this as relevant. I don't see that propositional logic has a causal o...
This all comes from the conversation that emerged after you insisted that NotAristotle needs to follow a rule: That characterization is a good example...
I actually said, "When I wrote it I wasn't sure whether you fit the bill or not." So no, not primarily you. Rather, you asked for information that you...
Why do you get to keep ignoring my question? Why do you think you are entitled to an answer to your question? Leontiskos: There are folk in these part...
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