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Once you have a fully featured model of what it means to make sense in any world, I think you'd find it means the same thing if we're deterministic or...

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If it makes sense to you though, keep on keeping on.

Intended by whom?

I think you've missed the context again

But the context is that we do have a consciousness literally telling determinists what to do, here in the thread. So comparing THAT - a real thinking ...

We all do, I appreciate the acknowledgement.

But that's not what he said. He said he's observed that they do fret, he didn't say he's observed that they're less likely to fret. If anything, he's ...

No need to be generous, just Google what it means to fret about something. First result is "to be constantly or visible anxious" for me. Anxiety is an...

I think they aren't all zen monks. Some are - in fact Zen Buddhists generally believe in determinism - but clearly not all determinists are zen monks

The entire context of this conversation is one person suggesting determinists not fret about decisions - that is the same as saying "determinists shou...

It hasn't been made to fit yet. I still don't see any sensible lines to draw between determinists and non determinists in regards to fretting. Either ...

I answered that, but I'll try to answer it more clearly: Either a) fretting about decisions frequently produces better decisions than not fretting, in...

No idea what this means

Not in the way that this person was telling determinists what to think. If someone wants to make an argument that it "tells" us things, they should di...

You can prove it pretty succinctly .9999... = x 9.9999... = 10x 10x-x = 9.999... - .999... 9x = 9 x = 1

the part here, now, where i am. I'm not some addition that someone decided to add in, that wasn't previously there. Everything that is "me" has always...

I'm not adding to it, i'm part of it, I'm a piece of it. It defines me, I am defined as a part of it. If your choice is not part of the causal chain, ...

Without? No, of course not. We're part of the causal chain, not merely victims of it.

I prefer to have my beliefs caused by rational thought and evidence, not beliefs without causes.

Do you really have a solid reason to believe this? What is it? Why did you step out of the casual chain? Did something... cause that?

This conversation seems predicated on causality to me - if it were free of the casual chain, we would just be writing random stuff. You're writing to ...

I think you lost sight of the train of conversation

What is this a reply to?

You've observed determinists doing... what exactly? "They fret about making "wrong" decisions" - yes, this isn't the part I'm arguing with. It's the p...

Yes but determinism isn't telling us "don't think" if we're already thinking - determinisms the one telling us think! Or rather, "we" are defined by d...

But if determinism is true, the obvious answer is "because I'm not determined to".

So what I've noticed is a bunch of non-determinists saying that determinists do, or should, think this way (even though it's not beneficial to think t...

Are you a determinist?

yet they don't what? yes, that's certainly part of the process.

let me rephrase: it doesn't match MY intuition, and many other people. To many of us, (2+2=4) implies (Kamala Harris is a presidential nominee) makes ...

I'd push back against this - this is one of the most egregious examples of logic disagreeing with our intuitive use of implication. In classic symboli...

But if you know that determinists do deliberate, despite being determinists, then you know that that's not an example of determinism leading to imprud...

You didn't ... make an op in which you talk about determinists and what they think and what their ideas are? Come on dude. Your op talks about determi...

You made an op in which you talk about determinists and what they think and what their ideas are, and the consequences of their ideas - whether you li...

Let me put it this way: There's these apparently competing ideas of how the world works. One idea is, we are "agents", and agents have minds and make ...

Just because some person wrote that there's a difference in some OP doesn't make it so

the alternative is that there isn't a real difference between those things. Between a series of specific brain states, compared to pondering and weigh...

Because I wanted to talk about the question of their contradictoriness without the baggage of the riddle. I think most people got the correct answer, ...

why? He's acting exactly as he's determined to. What's the line of reasoning that ends with "therefore I shouldn't deliberate?"

yes, he keeps talking like you can just skip straight to the end, but... that's not how determinism works in principle. You can't just cut out deliber...

you talk about it as if they could choose not to

The way I've stated it is relevant to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbershop_paradox The way I stated it was no more or less vague than it nee...

I think it should be worded as "Elvis is a man DOES imply that elvis is NOT simultaneously immortal and mortal". It positively implies something, rath...

Is that the right English translation of that? Keep in mind that ¬(B and ¬B) is equivalent to B or ¬B - would you say A ? (B or ¬B) can be worded as "...

Depending on circumstances, it might make more sense to say something like "A can't be proven to imply a contradiction" rather than "A doesn't imply a...

This might seem crazy to you, but I would translate that as just A, or in other words, A is true. If you are stating, for a fact, in classical logic, ...

https://www.umsu.de/trees/#~3a~5(a~5~3(b~1~3b)) https://www.umsu.de/trees/#~3a~5(a~5(b~1~3b)) I would reword it from "a does not imply a contradiction...

What's the general beliefs here regarding Trump's culpability for the infamous events of January 6? The two main takes are: he incited what happened h...

One way of approaching the problem might be thinking about the fact that wars are fought - some wars - ostensibly over freedom. Which means that a hug...

Which one of the above phrases are you saying is the english translation of (a?¬(b?¬b))? It's either «A implies a contradiction» is false or «A does n...