Patterner

I don't want to debate whether or not panpsychism is fact. I want to discuss things from the starting point that it is fact. A long time ago, people m...

I'm not sure how you mean this. Let me try to clarify. I do not think the physical properties we are familiar with can explain consciousness. The expl...

I think this is panpsychism. Just one idea that fits under the umbrella. I believe there phrase "subjective experience" is more commonly used. I just ...

Thank you. I agree that it's often not defined well. I think the lack of clarity and consensus means the best we can do is this bare minimum. And this...

I believe otherwise. I think consciousness is casual. However, it seems to me what I'm talking about here would apply either way.

I might think the cat is on the mat. But I might speak that sentence, even though I don't actually think the cat is on the mat. I only thought of the ...

Yes. All living things have DNA. DNA and it's cohorts may not be aware of what they're doing, but there is a goal, which is achieved. Information is p...

Sure. And I'm sure Donald Hoffman is in full agreement. I'm not defining "rock". I'm just talking about whatever it is that we call a rock. I am, inde...

I mean it does not emerge from, isn't produced by, anything else. We don't think, for example, mass or electrical charge emerge from anything else. Th...

That's an interesting dream! :grin: Yes. Thank you. indeed. Heh. I take part in those discussions often enough. But I'd like to have a different discu...

That's sounds right.

fantastic post! I wish I had anything useful to add.

And we need to determine how different the two are.

I don't know that it couldn't for others. I only know it didn't for me. My first exposure to Bach was like the proverbial piano falling on me. I didn'...

More important, imo, can we appreciate it without the material? I didn't tag anyone, but did you see my last post? The paper with crayon spots is enti...

This is a key point. I'll use Bach as an example again, because he's Bach. But many people don't like his music, and think that's a silly sentence. I ...

I once watched a my children's 2 year old half sister with a piece of paper and crayons. She made dots. Many dots with one color, switched colors and ...

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everybody remember this scene from Dead Poets Society? https://youtu.be/tpeLSMKNFO4

The same is brought up in discussions of math and the laws of physics. Difficult to know sometimes. But this is definitely true of art.

The criteria of "lively" is not objective. Some don't like lively. It doesn't seem right that somber music lovers would never get anything they love o...

Some people think classical music is the most beautiful kind of music. Some think baroque music is the most beautiful kind of classical music. Some pe...

I think Johnny Cash's best work was on Colombo. :grin:

Well, of course, you have to do something with the bread. :grin: Make French toast. (Using only pure maple syrup.) Sandwiches of any sort. I just find...

You're certainly right that we can give more detail about what we like and don't like. But it seems to me it just moves the question down a level. Why...

I don't believe any of the questions have answers that don't ultimately come down to "That's just the way it is.". And I suspect most of it is just th...

But even the "why" doesn't help. Take Bach. I love counterpoint. I love how he weaved the voices in and around each other, yet the harmonies were alwa...

Perhaps for the same reason I love Bach, but Mozart doesn't do much for me. Or why I love chocolate, but don't bother with strawberry. There is no "wh...

I haven't read Dawkins, but I know he has a book called The Selfish Gene. Is that where her days that? What is your perspective? Googling "information...

I think DNA produces the environment in which it can reproduce. Doesn't matter what species, it's what all life is. I'd say that's the definition of l...

I wonder if it's possible that ends, goals, or purposes can exist without intention. How can protein synthesis not be the goal of DNA and its cohorts?...

I disagree. I think old faithful would erupt with the same regularity whethet humans, or any life, existed. I would say the same about pulsars, and ma...

Intention is a sure sign of teleology. But I have to wonder about intention. Consider DNA. These are Marcello Barbieri's words: DNA is two complimenta...

I don't know about the universe, as a whole, being teleological. I don't see any reason to believe it is. But teleology is certainly found in the univ...

How would we go about calculating the probability of the BB?

I suspect I am not, although I don't really understand. It seems to me that you're sometimes saying there are consistencies/regularities/patterns in t...

As our understanding of what evolves?

I think this brings me back to my original question. If the patterns are not external, why would our cognitive apparatus produce them? "Law" is an unf...

I thought you were saying that, particularly when you said, "At present, I tend to believe that the idea that the universe “behaves in an orderly way”...

That's what I took to be the point of the OP. There are regularities, patterns, consistencies.

Ah! Ok. I thought you were getting at something specific.

I doubt there could be any. If sometimes electrons and protons repel each other, and sometimes attracted to each other, and if the strong nuclear forc...

That's true. But, what else can and should we do?

I can't think of a different way that we should act. If it does not continue to behave tomorrow the way it is today, how could we guess in which ways ...

Why would we be machines of that nature? I would think because it's a successful strategy. If so, why would seeking patterns/meaning/connections in a ...

Why would humans attribute order where there is none? Wouldn't that mean order is a part of our nature? And if order is a part of our nature, and we a...

Go figure. I will, however, point out that the reason the X-Men's Kate Pryde can pass through solid objects is because she's able to take advantage of...

Human imagination had often come up with some fairly bizarre ideas that turned out to be accurate explanations of what's going on in our reality. Eins...

I'm more concerned with the definition of "solid" at the moment. The definition does not say there is no space between nucleus and electrons, between ...

Brinn of the Haruchai said: “I will know the truth. Any being who cannot bear the truth is indeed unworthy.” My thinking is that, whatever the answers...