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October 06, 2023 at 02:05
Note this part: the value character itself is given in original intuition. This is the stream before it's been analyzed or divided into its subjective...
October 06, 2023 at 02:04
I claim that we see the same object differently. Even I, by myself, see the same object differently as I walk around it or shine my flashlight on it. ...
October 06, 2023 at 01:59
The issue is whether it should still be called 'consciousness.' There's an original eruption of flowing presence, the 'stream' of consciousness or exp...
October 06, 2023 at 01:48
It seems we basically agree on this issue. The more radically we take subjectivity, the less it remains subject as opposed to object. We move to the u...
October 06, 2023 at 01:42
:up: It is neutral as being neither mind or nor matter, prior to both. https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/us/james1.htm I'd s...
October 05, 2023 at 14:42
Here's a description of the obvious that is nevertheless ontologically significant. Who has ever experience the world differently ? And can I even mak...
October 05, 2023 at 12:59
I offer this not as an appeal to authority but only as potentially useful. I disengage myself just as I disengage everyone else and the entire world, ...
October 05, 2023 at 12:51
I tend to agree with the spirit of what you are saying in this thread, but I think this metaphysical subject must be dissolved, https://plato.stanford...
October 05, 2023 at 12:08
Our views aren't that far apart probably. I don't think you are being solipsistic, by the way. And the timebinding human species is the best candidate...
October 05, 2023 at 11:48
I think we agree here. This is Geist, spirit, form of life, culture, the they, one, the who of everyday dasein.
October 05, 2023 at 11:40
I got a copy of Pain and Pleasure by Thomas Szasz, and reads like a work of metaphysics, in a good way. Szasz quotes Russell making surprisingly (to m...
October 05, 2023 at 11:38
:up: I think my view is pretty close to Sartre's. I'm a fan of his work. My influences are blurring together in the phrase, but I'd say that 'neutral ...
October 05, 2023 at 11:26
I hear you, but we replace one fallible belief with another. I do think you nailed the practical sense of 'reality.' But I don't think you've made a c...
October 05, 2023 at 08:48
:up: In other words, the scientific image is (of course, in retrospect?) just a useful image. It's a map that deserves respect, but it's bonkers ontol...
October 05, 2023 at 08:38
:up: The subjectivist camp is right that the world is always given perspectively, but they don't squeeze enough juice from the fact that it's the worl...
October 05, 2023 at 08:34
I share an analogy that might help. ontological cubism Anyone else ever play GoldenEye on the Nintendo 64 ? It was the supreme first-person shooter of...
October 05, 2023 at 08:30
I basically agree. We can only speak with confidence from our actual, embodied experience. We know nothing about a world from no perspective at all. W...
October 05, 2023 at 08:14
“Pure experience” is good, but it’ll tempt some to think of an experiencer as primary (or primary in the wrong way, as more than a structural tendency...
October 05, 2023 at 08:01
To name a few: Kant, Husserl, Wilbur. But the idea, under various names, is at the center of modern philosophy. Wittgenstein is admirably focused on e...
October 05, 2023 at 07:50
I get what Wayf is trying to say here, but there 'is' not a subject except as a perspectival form of being. Husserl's discussion of spatial objects is...
October 05, 2023 at 07:30
In my paper translation, estrangement is detachment. https://accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn35/sn35.028.nymo.html In other words, the withdrawal of...
August 17, 2023 at 03:12
The world is a wheel, and the world is a fire. The world is a Firewheel. https://accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn35/sn35.028.nymo.html How much does...
August 17, 2023 at 03:08
Some more good stuff that seems relevant: Can he go backwards, take a new path around embarrassing subjectivity ? Is the quest for the pure dead objec...
August 17, 2023 at 02:50
I don't agree with M, but I like that he sees the fucking issue. His weird attempt to wriggle out of correlationism is fascinating, and he sees his fo...
August 17, 2023 at 02:41
So we arrive at the mighty mystical X yet again ? It's fine to posit X as long as we admit (and don't even care) that we don't know what we are talkin...
August 17, 2023 at 02:34
I'll put this quote here too in order to rep correlationism. The meaning of ancestral statements is supposed to be a problem for correlationism, but i...
August 17, 2023 at 02:21
This may help. From a famous book on this issue: https://altexploit.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/quentin-meillassoux-ray-brassier-alain-badiou-after-fi...
August 17, 2023 at 02:09
I think a simpler example is that, in the US, we drive on the right. This norm is physically manifested everywhere. The latest stochastic parrots find...
August 17, 2023 at 01:18
I challenge the disconnected entity from a holist position as semantically ungrounded.
August 17, 2023 at 01:15
The question is what do or can you mean ?
August 17, 2023 at 01:15
I think ancestral objects are a challenge to my view, but when one tries to imagine a meaning for the world existing independently of humans, one has ...
August 17, 2023 at 01:13
I say look at normative rationality at the heart of science and philosophy, the expectation that one justifies ones claims. Or look at a cheating boyf...
August 17, 2023 at 01:05
I've believe that: all we ever have is beliefs. Such beliefs are the intelligible structure of the world as it is given to us (from our perspectives.)...
August 17, 2023 at 00:58
I think some people do indeed hold this to-me-problematic position. As a holist, I say it's just confusion to think concepts/entities have meaning ind...
August 16, 2023 at 23:47
And it's not always easy to find anyone who gives a shit about this stuff in the first place. So it's a huge luxury or privilege if you just happen to...
August 16, 2023 at 23:40
I expect that a crude realism will always dominate the lives of the practical primate. Most people get their fix from visceral metaphors for being as ...
August 16, 2023 at 23:35
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August 16, 2023 at 23:33
:up: Great flick.
August 16, 2023 at 23:32
:up: The world is mediated for us by screens. Maybe it used to be rumors brought by travelers, but at least then it was words which were clearly just ...
August 16, 2023 at 23:30
. :up: Me and the author. Me and me. The author and the author. The self is a chaos of voices.
August 16, 2023 at 23:26
But I do think there is indeed a blind spot in some thinkers. It's a macho thing. Toughminded tech-oriented I'm-a-truth-computer thing. Only sissies n...
August 16, 2023 at 23:25
The richest man in the world suggested that we live in a simulation. The Matrix was huge. Continental philosophy is mostly post-Kantian far as I can t...
August 16, 2023 at 23:21
I'm really much more interested in the bubble issue itself, as I said above. Kant is just a symbol for that. But so is Hume. Methodological solipsism ...
August 16, 2023 at 23:08
I think it's great to steelman a beloved thinker. That's roughly equivalent to sharing what one thinks are good beliefs for possible adoption.
August 16, 2023 at 23:06
I don't think there is a 'final' or 'authorative' perspective on Kant. He himself is a like a 'transcendent' spatial object, seen differently by all o...
August 16, 2023 at 23:04
Note that he inherited the trope. This is Hume. We may observe, that 'tis universally allow'd by philosophers, and is besides pretty obvious of itself...
August 16, 2023 at 23:02
But that contradicts what I've already quoted. I do think that his living intention is closer to what you say. It had to be. But he wrote some wild sc...
August 16, 2023 at 22:59
Great to hear !
August 16, 2023 at 22:58
Oh I understand that. My point is that my ability to understand that (and Kant's) is parasitic on my everyday knowledge of sense organs in relation to...
August 16, 2023 at 22:55