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Is it really so strange ? Philosophy can even be framed as a series of creative misreadings or violent appropriations of influences.

:up: I can't even make sense of 'we can achieve anything.' I don't think we disagree much on this issue. I do think insisting on the mystery of consci...

:up: I agree, but I don't think antinatalism or my own pour of poison escapes that structure. Zapffe and Cioran are tall strong drinks for bold bad bl...

Yes, and I am as greedy and wicked as that sevencrowned beast that rises from the sea, global Kapital, the whore of babble on, even if part of me, the...

:up: You caught my typo in the quote (pet sense of the world).

We are largely if not completely aligned. Boredom is an aristocratic vice. We write within a peculiar intoxicating genre. Undecidable poisoncure bliss...

If you look at my aggresive critique of Bunge, you'll see (I hope) this I'm not a member of the go life movement, no more than I 'must' be, given huma...

Where we differ is understanding the sublime in terms of relaxation. Allow me a little crudity. Consider the buildup to orgasm. That's excitement befo...

:up: We expand our vocabulary to include metacognitive concepts. We can talk about our talking to get better at talking --- and better at talking abou...

You radically misunderstand me. I find it strange that you seem to project on me some kind of thesis that man is not natural, when that's precisely th...

:up: We can maybe add that one man needs to hides this from some other men like that wonderful wizard of Oz.

:up: up of a smoke

I was being playful. I don't really believe in sin. Let me add some context from Oscar Wilde. Women have a much better time than men in this world; th...

Here's some background: ***************************************************************** Normative pragmatism is the idea that discursive practice is...

:up: Loving it. @"Janus" You might like.

:up: This is why I'm interested in the question of the meaning of being. This is what I think others are trying to say with the hard problem, though I...

And what are these ? You go on to say: If feelings / thoughts / images have no 'purely mental' component, why shouldn't a bot have them simply by meet...

But this proves nothing. No data. All we have publicly is word use and structural commonalities. No hidden states can play a role in making this case.

Understood. And I just bought more books today myself.

Since we don't want to derail the thread, I'll just say that Brandom runs with this insight from Sellars and manages to make this 'space of reasons' a...

No, I've been attacking a certain theory of reference, not presenting my own. I like Brandom's approach , which he took from Kant, which makes an enti...

No, they absorb structure (norms) and generate novel sentences.. That's also what we do.

But what is consciousness ? I don't think we should assume some elusive referent here. We have criteria to attributing consciousness already. The brai...

Do you imagine 'mind' being summoned into existence 'within' 'matter' as this happens? Will something that can already talk better than most humans be...

That is just the kind of excellent and beautiful question I'm trying to dig out. What does it mean to feel ? If answering this is no more than a matte...

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:up: Yes, crude versions anyway of each tend to look like monisms that lose contrastive grip. If all is X, then nothing is. It's up without down, left...

. I don't know. I think a welltreated dog is more reliably happy, but do they attain the same heights ? I don't see how one can answer with more than ...

:starstruck: Afar tenure knows. Seventy new fur chins. Pair of eyes lost.

Also, for what it's worth, I don't agree that this claim should be taken for granted. I don't doubt that a number of thinkers locked in a certain conc...

Hiya. I find it strange you addressed the dog analogy when I was clearly talking about the difficultly of us establishing our own limits. That's not k...

:up: So do I, and, for basically the same reason, I also dispute its shadow : the purely or only mental.

I do see an itch in some to demystify it, which has its pros and cons. Demystification can be good if it clears the path for inquiry. Mystification ca...

:up: To me this also points toward that lack in our lifeworld of 'pure' mentality and its shadow 'pure' materiality.

In the ordinary sense, of course. Motte and bailey. We need not introduce internal images, though this is tempting in ordinary contexts, given popular...

We might ask what 'experience' is supposed to mean. It's the motte / bailey thing. In ordinary language, we have mentalistic talk of how things felt t...

I don't think so, however admittedly tempting this sounds. If 'true orangeness' is hidden, we have no data whatsoever for supporting such a hypothesis...

You claim that meaning can't be observed. I don't see how that claim is justified. Bots have learned to talk with us. I agree that it's difficult to t...

It's true that I don't currently project feelings on or having feelings toward machines. I just don't see why I couldn't in principle --- if those mac...

I think 'immediacy of experience') hints at the same kind of thing. It's not how but that the world is that is the mystical. It's that there is a worl...

What exactly is this ghost intention ? I 'know' in the usual way of course. But here again we seem to be invoking the divine spark. We are machines cr...

I do understand of course that claims about the we are attributed to the I that makes them. This is as common as any discussion about the rules of a s...

I'm sorry, doctor, but that's not it. I think our softwhere is as adversarial as it is cooperative, possibly because we evolved at the level of the tr...

Not so sure. 'I' seems to be the sign for a 'virtual' bearer of social responsibility, a 'player' on the 'stage,' which is associated with a particula...

He's not saying that.

I think you are maybe loading your own presuppositions on to the position. Here is a minimal versino : We can directly perceive ordinary objects. To m...

One way to approach 'explaining consciousness' is maybe as getting clearer about it, becoming less confused. In my view, progress has been made over t...

The survival of the pattern is its persistence. We reason back from this. What kind of patterns persist ? They might have indestructible instantiation...

Perhaps. But do we really understand pushing and pulling ? Or is it just something so familiar we are numb to it ? And isn't making a telephone call a...

To me there's a semantic issue here. What can we mean by saying Neptunians understand something like "how matter thinks" unless we also understand ? I...