I think you are on to something here. I hadn't thought of it. The difference between "I don't know that p" and "I know that not-p" is particularly rel...
I'm afraid I don't know what to make of these two messages. Some of it I understand and agree with, though I'm not sure I'm interpreting it in the sam...
Yes, that is persuasive. Opinion is like knowledge, but deceptive and turn out not to be knowledge. Something pleasurable can be deceptive and turn ou...
Something reliable can fail once or twice and still be classed as reliable. But if something certain turns out wrong, it is no longer certain. I prefe...
Well, it was a good thing I checked. What the Gorgias says is rather different from my account of it. You will find that at 463 he characterizes rheto...
I think I accept that. A lot depends on what you mean by "certain". On some interpretations, that might conflict with reliability, or least, the stand...
Well, that is the classic conclusion of the early dialogues. So you are probably right about that. I'll look up the Gorgias and give you a reference. ...
I'm afraid I can't provide much elaboration. I assumed that if something is done by the my unconscious self, it followed that I was doing it. Actions ...
That puzzles me. I was suggesting that the paradox is best understood when we move away from that question and begin to ask others, like "Where did yo...
I'm very confused by what you say about the dialogues. I would have to look up the dialogues to comment intelligently. But what I collect from the pas...
The observable phenomenon is the brain activity and its apparent connection to what we consciously do at the conscious level. The description "unconsc...
I'm glad we agree about that. Yes. "Drag Plato in" is exactly right. And his footnote, though it shows a certain respect for him, doesn't help matters...
What you say reminds me of what Hume says about radical scepticism - he calls it Pyrrhonic. Everybody will continue on their merry way, despite not be...
Yes, certainly. I just wanted to clarify that giving the narrative is an additional process of construction on top of the processes involved in living...
Good point. That seems very likely. Thanks. It doesn't disprove JTB. It disproves that the model he proposes isn't appropriate for JTB (or anything el...
That is the puzzle. It seems to me that what the citations I'm complaining about are doing. They ignore the conclusion that Plato draws, without refut...
"I" is a kind of name. What it refers to is defined in the context in which it is used. So it identifies exactly what my name identifies, which is not...
That is certainly an interesting question. But Plato seems to veer away from it when Socrates says I'm not sure what you mean by "abstracted puzzles"....
Yes, that would be a good example. I'm not surprised. Those results, in my uneducated view, are pretty devastating for mathematics as we know it. Phil...
I'm not really clear what ChatGP is. But if you think it has some special access to what's going in Al's head, there's no harm in hearing what it says...
That's very good. :smile: Quite so. But this is philosophy, which Has great difficulty recognizing irony except in Socratic dialogues and Kierkegaard,...
There are ways of justification available in both those cases. Not that I can write down a rule book, but I'm sure you are familiar with both practice...
You mean that Socrates is offering a wrong, or at least incomplete, account in order to stimulate Theaetetus to come up with something better. I guess...
You're right. Asking the question changes the context, which can change one's attitude to what one thought one knew. That's inherent in the example, w...
I agree that the notion of justification is vague. It follows that judgements about it are not as crisp and clear as they hopefully would be if there ...
It certainly stuck in my mind. It also gives on another target to replace the ever-elusive Truth and helps with destructive anxiety. So let me offer y...
Yes, quite so. I think that these cases are one kind of embedded belief, in that we (but not everyone) think that beliefs are also appropriately attri...
That's really interesting. I don't know which I would say. It might be one in one situation and another in another situation. But most people would re...
I think I understand what you mean. There's no doubt, for example, that Gettier writes as if he believes that a belief maps to a proposition which map...
This is the problem. A complete justification would consider every possibility (except, perhaps, the purely imaginary ones), including the possibility...
I'm sorry, I'm not ready to venture on articulating general criteria. It's a very complex topic and I have never seen anything more helpful than very ...
I've looked at some sources and I agree that I was wrong to be so confident that he believed in reincarnation when he wrote the Theaetetus. I still th...
He's lacking conclusive justification, that's true. But I'm not sure that justification must be conclusive. If that is the case, the J clause and the ...
Yes. I found that puzzling, given that, so far as I know, he never abandoned the doctrine of reincarnation. But perhaps we can see it buried in the di...
That's true, but did I suggest it was a necessary fact. Certainly, I would happily agree that the location of his car is contingent and that his knowl...
reply="creativesoul;780722"] You're right. I'm sorry. Two answers. First, I don't understand what you mean by "accounting practice" or "malpractice" i...
I'm not clear whether you think that's a bad thing or a good thing. I suppose it could be either, depending on why it changes. It is also possible tha...
On the surface, the answer is probably No. But that depends on how you define the questions. Arguably, what happens is that an answer that works in on...
I agree with that. But then, an answer that is correct, job done, doesn't generate new questions. Perhaps we should distinguish between answers (2+2=?...
Sorry, I was a bit vague. They know where they parked their car and assume that it's still safe, and where they left their respective cars. They assum...
The Theaetetus doesn't point to the inadequacy of the JTB, but only to the inadequacy of Plato's idea of an account or an explanation or a justificati...
I've just had a light-bulb moment. I was thinking that the J clause enabled a chain of transmission to form. The J clause provided assurance that the ...
I do place emphasis on common speech practices. That doesn't mean that I rule out all technical or specialized language, just that everything needs to...
No, it hasn't been discussed - so far as I remember. It's a good point. That's why "I know that p" is a pleonasm, i.e. adds nothing except rhetorical ...
It's nice that people quote Plato in this context, but the Theaetetus really is no help at all. It doesn't even really represent what Plato would like...
It's perfectly true that examples are, inevitably, constructed or selected - usually to prove a point. Al and Betty are no exception, even though this...
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