Did you not see the addition to my OP? I'm asking you to assume there is a coherent definition of free will. If you reject the assumption that there i...
LOL. I could make the equally valid claim that either sin does not exist because God doesn't exist, or that we know so little about God, I could rejec...
Not everyone who believes in free will accepts that sin exists. Can one believe in sin and yet not have a belief in any God? Or perhaps God does exist...
I modified my OP to add the following. "Assuming we all agree that the concept of Free Will is a coherent concept, then...." I do understand there are...
Well, you'd be wrong. I'm more interested in what other people think about the concept. I still don't know if you literally have not read anything on ...
I don't know if it's going to happen... but, I'd like you to acknowledge that people have taken the time to explain the concept of free will. I wonder...
What explanations have you come across in the past? Why did you reject them? Or you are literally claiming that no one has ever explained what they me...
What do you think it means? You must have come across the concept before this thread. Based on your responses, I think a valid assumption on my part, ...
I think I hear you saying that the concept of Free Will is incoherent. Is that a valid summation? Or are you saying that you personally don't understa...
I think it helps to consider real life situations. My theory is that one can't be agnostic. One will either act like one is responsible (act like you ...
As an example, If you were convicted of a crime. Imagine that you're standing before the judge. Do you take responsibility? or do you say (or think to...
I read Harris' book on Free Will, and he and others are really trying to convince all of us that Free Will is and can only be an illusion- because the...
Are you responsible for your actions? or are you merely a victim of a deterministic universe? Are you convinced by the supposed evidence coming from n...
I'm striving for Eudaimonia, but not necessarily Aristotle's version. The research I've done suggests there are many systems that promise Eudaimonia. ...
Well said. What I find amusing is the assumption that any meaning-rejecting system is the status quo, along with the denial that it needs any kind of ...
Re: slavery. Id like to do some more research, but the sense I got is that slavery has always been abhorrent.... there was always mistreatment (as if ...
I understand that people see it that way... But, the Democrats do seem to care more about social issues, and the Republicans do seem to care about mor...
When Republicans point out the immoral Democrats, I point out the immoral Republicans. I can get general (policies) or specific (individual politician...
By spotting and pointing out obvious issues. For instance, the Republican party is the party for the wealthy and big business, Democrats don't appear ...
I've never even considered that possibility... I found this on wiki And it doesn't look especially appealing. I have to admit I'm better at commenting...
The flaw I see in virtue ethics, is that it is, or maybe just is usually selfish. It's amazing that none of the ancient virtue ethicists thought "isn'...
Sure, I can accept that. I suppose you could consider that I'm suggesting a premise: Moral facts, if true, would be just as weird as mathematical fact...
The only thing I'm driving at is continuing to consider the question, "what if there were moral facts"? Would that be so strange? (I may have misread ...
If morality is objective, then we definitely don't make it up as we go. We are discovering or beginnig to understand what is the case about morality, ...
Doesn't this presuppose that everyone is convinced by mathematical statements? And even if convinced, what's to prevent someone from refusing to under...
I also find the New Atheists to be profoundly anti-religion. I seriously doubt any of them can give or have ever given an honest appraisal of positive...
I think I can sum up your questions/comments this way... There are X's and there are Y's. X's exist in the real world and Y's exist only in the human ...
Here is a synopsis of Chapter 4: Knowledge and Opinion. (Adler's book: Ten Philosophical Mistakes). All this is from Adler's point of view, this is, a...
After considering my last post, and it's probably not what Hume had in mind, but perhaps he Was right. Even IF morality is objective, you're still no ...
I see something similar in my own life. Others may not notice much of a change, but I feel more calm, more centered. More and longer stretches of time...
In the atheist groups I know of, if you bring up morality, you Will soon become entangled in an argument about religion. They don't seem to be able to...
I also respect both sides enough to want to be truthful about the problems I see- so, if you're a Republican, I'll tell you the issues I see w/ Republ...
I got depressed because people kept asking me (as a utilitarian) to consider the "best" reasons for killing other people. Why don't utilitarians spend...
This is the post in question... I'd like to meet someone who is an atheist, and who shares my conviction that morality is objective. I do know of some...
I did talk honestly about my real-world experiences. I did meet some very vocal atheists who do see morality in a twisted way such that I don't know h...
I have nothing good to say about the New Atheist movement. Have you read anything by Chris Hedges, author of I Don't Believe in Atheists and When Athe...
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