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It seems like you are stating a conclusion. I read the post and it seems like it is presented as deduction, when in fact it is just a conclusion.Might...

It seems like he might have had the judgment you are not tolerant of different religious beliefs. This is not because of the behavior of some members,...

The upper classes do not hold Western values. At least not modern ones. They increasingly see themselves above the law and have not the slightest prob...

Not the retributive, but the consequensive. That if one identifies and continues to attach (to life, to what one wants, to others) the entanglment con...

Buddhist Karma ideas vary but there is the idea that one's habits of mind, degree of identification with emotions and passions are causal in leading o...

I am not sure what this means. Europe acted quite like Rome in the Americas. But I am sure I am missing what you are saying.

I think this is right and that the issue gets very complicated since we have no model for free will. I do think the ability to assess rationality is p...

How would a person who conclusions are utterly compelled to seem rational, but might not be, be able to assess this?

Which if true, would be then true. But then even that means that if you are raped, then you raped before. Not a pleasant bit of insight to take in and...

The Abrahamists and the technocrats have a long history of abusing pagans. Not that you are wrong, but you can also look at pagans as people with non-...

Being a pagan or heathen might mean one is connecting to pre-Christian, regional religions and connect this to nationalism or a particular race. But u...

I would actually start at the other end. Let's make it safe for the most vulnerable at the same time extremely important free speech like whisteblower...

It could be a range of situations with different weights of causes. Some where the speaker is more resposible, though my brain state or knowledge base...

Oh, sorry, missed the double neg. Go forth, then, consistent one, and speak freely.

Sorry. I'll just shift it to a question. How come the bomb utterance is an exception to free speech? And, I certainly get the specific problems that c...

Sure. And even with, well, theists who are not like this, or really anyone who does not share your beliefs, it's a rare discussion that changes people...

Might it still, despite this, not be better to avoid the debate?

OK, and is this because it is approaching newtonian types of causality. IOW statistically high chance that people will behave in certain ways that we ...

So, bomb in the airport is ok, since people can choose whether to fall for it. I am still also on this causality issue, not just trying to corner you ...

. Ok, fair enough. It certainly is possible to be consistent on the issue and you seem to be. You must consider a fairly wide range of policies, laws ...

I think causality is more complicated than that. Or broader. I appreciate you expanding though I wish you'd work with the other examples, and then mov...

'Grybhshalabhagbh' and then 'Your father's home from Iraq and waiting in the backyard' each said in low tones to the guy's kids. Adn then all the othe...

I didn't say anything about the first ammendment. i was talking about speech moving people/matter. I didn't know it was first A before. I gave some ot...

Could you make the statement that I think is implicit in this...I would guess it is something like: If something does not affect everyone the same way...

I can't see how speech isn't causal in that situation. (though there is potential energy and keyed in concepts that also contribute to the effects) I ...

Why is it illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater (when there's no fire).`? And then of course speech moves matter. Waves in the air, vibrations in ...

You could just say it's not a conversatoin your interested in. Then ask them about their jobs or families or hobbies.

Why not just ignore the debate? Then there's no attack, no need to defend. Or, really, it's the perfect defense.

One could be a Buddhist and not end up as a hermit. Most don't.I don't think so. And further if you are in contact with a lot of media and read, you'v...

Could it not be, rather, that you are not talking about single causes? I spray a strong allergen over a high school. Not everyone gets hives but many ...

There will be nothing to notice this, if they are right. IOW brains will be affected, but there wll be no subjective experience of 'oh, they were righ...

If you are setting the assumptions (again), iow saying that we will assume your one to three above, fine. But, if you are not for he sake of argument ...

Well, then we shouldn't have medications at all. They are sustaining the weaker organisms. But then, here's the thing, evolution did lead to, amongst ...

No, me neither. In fact, I would say that part of the reason I appreciate it is because I will in the longer run be critical and I know this. I trust ...

Not just distracting, but I find I really consider something if it is presented as simply the case. In contrast with another type of presentatino wher...

Sure, there's no reason for you to accept my version of the encounter. But then there's no reason to assume I had a superficial familiarity with the r...

Nice. It's good to keep such doors open. Not because I quite believe this one, but I think interesting thinking leaves on the table, at least for a wh...

Of course. I did make that clear in there, the part about it not being specifically about me. I brought it down to a me you level, just to make it con...

I can imagine interpreting some of the commandments that way. But I see nothing there that demonstrates that God is hiding, even if it were the only p...

Though where the balance point is on the spectrum of not being affected by unpleasant treatment ->being thrown for a long time by it, I don't know. We...

And to Noah and Pattern, I just realized that intersubjective doesn't work, because most people experience their model that they can know things about...

That's easily sorted out. I would say scientists do not agree in the least that they are merely drawing conclusions about sense data, nor would they t...

Let me quote him referring to scientists.... We have no way of knowing if it is OR. If we have no way of knowing, then we cannot decide which models a...

I said that a number of times to Noah. That it wasn't just about me, or just my perception. That is was a model of reality in general. About the OR. H...

I'm not making a claim about whether we can know the OR or not. I am deconstructing his position and saying that I think it contradicts itself. I thin...

I don't think it matters for my main point which of those I am using. I could work with either one and still present the same argument. And actually I...

Let me assume you mean that the OR is consistant in the sense that I should be like him, my perception is like his. If that assumption is not correct,...

That was one part, that he is making statements about my perception. But really the main point I am making is he is making statements about OR. He tol...

What are those different things and how is he not contradicting himself?

That's fine. But he is telling me what I am like. He is not telling me how I appear. He is saying above that scientists only know things about AR, app...