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I don't think you get to tell me what these people felt. And as public figures they are going to present themselves strategically - which could take l...

None of what you write here justifies your judgments of strong emotional reactions. Reason has been used to justify all sorts of horrible acts. Emotio...

I mean, hate. Any person living in a society that regularly discriminates against them, it seems to me, is extremely likely to feel hate. This is unde...

We are social mammals. Our limbic systems are inextricably involved even in our rational thinking.

I think it is very unlikely that she did not hate the laws and at times hated her treatment. If you google 'rosa parks hated' you will find that peopl...

Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. I am saying Given that he is the guy who would be cruel like that, I want him to express it. You are leaving out...

I prefer that the doctor was honest. Sure. But if he wants to express himself that way, I want to know. I'd prefer he preferred to not be cruel. But i...

Sigh, I explained this. I can prefer, for example that everyone shows their true nature, because it makes it easier to know where the threats are, for...

Right but I think it would be strange to call someone with terrible hygiene or a brown recluse spider assholes. You said immoral was a greater degree ...

How did you measure that? I didn't say anything about acting on it. If we are talking about slaves, they had very little power, so it was whites fight...

How could you tell I was bragging?

I agree that hate is likely not the only factor, but it would be one. I don't think frustration would be the main reason either. I was contrasting hat...

I got that also. And here I thought my brilliance had won over some beautiful Muscovite. I feel dirty and used.

How strange for anyone not to realize we are social mammals? with the complex set of motives that entails. Cuo buono: who benefits from us thinking th...

Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems to me truly intelligent people know they are smart and know they are smart than most other people, but this isn't the...

I agree in part. The title of the thread is Is Trainability of animals a measure of their intelligence? I would say it is 'a' measure, but not the onl...

Come on, one of his examples was slavery: slaves did not feel just frustrated with slavery, though I am sure there was much frustration. They hated th...

As a meta comment: sometimes it feels like I have to chase you to deal with an issue. Here, you say there is a difference in degree between asshole an...

OK, so now we know that they can still express themselves, even if I or we judge them immoral. So, again, why is it harder for them to express themsel...

Of course. But I haven't said anything about some system to make them be trustworthy. I said it was immoral behavior. You brought in the issue of enfo...

When someone is described as being mean or as a mean person, intent to be cruel in pretty much implicit. And it is certainly in no way a contradiction...

Who said anything about enforcing? Funny because that's bringing in force. I was talking about people making a moral judgment.In what sense. That seem...

Well, sure. But I want to be able to trust people. If I am paying them for that communication or it if is integral to work I am doing or if I have a c...

Wow that's even stronger than not thinking any speech should be restricted. So the doctor walks up to your kid after the tests and says 'Sorry kind, t...

If one thinks in moral terms, and calls someone 'mean' I can't really imagine how that person has not acted from that meanness and thus been immoral i...

Probably tangential, but for me dignity, while a factor, seems far less motivating than unedurable pain - could be in part emotional if the illness or...

The word mean carries the judgment that there is something wrong with them. 'Mean' has in it a value judgment that whatever it describes is, to some d...

Mean is pejorative and the only way you could tell if someone is mean is through acts. So if you use the term 'mean' to describe someone, unless you d...

I'd be interested in your take on the paragraphs in the middle of her last post to me. I have read them a few times and feel they are unclear. LOL, ma...

I would say hatred has a cognitive aspect also, so this is a good point. Rage can come cathartically, hate for me entails at least a temoporary catego...

It seems to me I see beliefs here. I see us them thinking here. I see blame here. For me these are not necessarily criticisms: beliefs are necessary f...

But perhaps what he or she as an individual needs to learn is pride or the sense that should not simply get away with being disrespectful, or perhaps ...

And what about those theists who do not feel superior to atheists, who see all as sinners or in shamanic or indigenous religions even see us as merely...

I got that it was sarcasm. The sarcasm was you taking on the voice of the theist while painting them as a them. Sarcasm generally has a target, in thi...

Adversity means unpleasant or difficult. I guess I wouldn't choose to have anything that was simply unpleasant - but I certainly want difficult. Not a...

I gave up on Batricks also. But here's a start...she could have responded by quoting me where it showed I misunderstood her, and explained why this sh...

I got that he was presenting the position of the religious, however I consider what he is going blaming and characterizing groups. and It seems to me ...

They were illegitimate (not sure that's the adjective I'd use, but it's not far off), then it hardened, and they become legitimate. Because now the or...

I generally agree with you on this one, though I think one could choose to try to change a belief and this can happen over time. Not about your birth ...

I thought you were arguing elsewhere that we should not think interms of good and evil. Isn't it implicit in this argument that you see theists as ten...

1) you asked about something regarding you, so part of that post was a response to the request. 2) I did focus on the issues, even in that post. You m...

If it is true that speech acts increase certain effects, then we have to deal with that danger. IOW you are saying that a problem with what I am sayin...

What am I not understanding? Please be specific about how I show that I do not understand, rather than simply disagree for the reasons I've given.

I think people try to come up with a variety of ways to feel as good as possible. And there is a wide range of ways to 'feel good'. Sometimes it even ...

I think actually it's a problem to try to live up to an ideal in many situations. People can have the ideal that they are a tough guy and don't allow ...

So we have company 1 and it uses advertising and more people buy the product and company 2 where without advertising their sales do not go up. Then 1 ...

This is where I came in... 'genuinely feel hatred' is a phrase which focuses on the type of feeling. Now to meet your criteria it has to be for such p...

Well, it depends. I mean if you are poor and struggling, stuck in a job that has Kafkaesque qualities, or any other really tough things to deal with r...

Let's say on some level you notice some systemic problems around you. Life is hard, there are some seriously horrible things that people do, there is ...

I think it feels good. I've been there, not becuase say, I was an existentialist or something like that. So, it came, actually more out of literature:...