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So why is your assessment superior to the Bible's? Why do objective moral rules only apply to persons who understand them?

Not according to the Bible. Adam and Eve didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil before they sinned.

My neighbor has really prominent brow ridges, so maybe.

I don't think so.

Yes, my argument hinges on that. Scientists of human origins don't agree with that, but that would take my argument into the weeds. I can still argue ...

The FDA's approval process is mostly paperwork. All the vaccines went through the standard 3 phase clinical trials. These phases check for safety and ...

That was an insightful comment. Thank you so much.

Cannibalism was just an example. The question is: is morality only for humans? The idea is that if morality is only for homo sapiens, then morality is...

Most moral realists throughout history didn't have to consider morality for animals because they didn't realize that we emerged from an evolutionary c...

So if Neanderthals engaged in cannibalism, you would say that was immoral? I'm just asking for the sake of understanding your position.

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Do you think it was rigged for Jeff Bezos?

It was supposed to be cracked eggs.

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Thanks for the thought provoking reply. The thread is about the requirements of life, and how those requirements may differ from what we expect or wan...

They actually did go through the whole standard testing procedure. What was sped up was the paperwork part, which sometimes takes years. Still, this w...

Plus there's no fact about which rules you've been following all this time. Augustine's solution: Love and do what you will.. No need for a rule-giver...

I think you've probably been trusting the FDA all your life. How many medications are you on right now?

I think we're talking about the same thing, it's just that I see good and evil as inextricably intertwined. The knife is a tool and a weapon. That sor...

Are you saying I'm wrong that leftism failed? Are you saying you think social safety nets should be expected to expand in the US? That the massive ear...

True, his base is varied. What I was trying to do was fit him into my theory that winners are good for society. Does that work when the winners are wr...

I didn't mark Trump that way, although I can understand why you got that impression. I think Trump is just a society wrecker. He was elected, in part,...

Yes. I agree with this, although I'd say this has been the prevailing mythos for at least a couple of thousand years. It's made us who and what we are...

True. But wasn't that because they discovered that driving the whole populace into the dirt was ultimately dangerous? It leads to Russian revolutions ...

Does it? Do you agree with Thatcher that there is no society? I'm not quite sure what you're saying. I'm saying: look at human societies the way you l...

It's all window dressing

Yea, there's a big dose of Nietzsche in this view.

When it's time for society to be wrecked, the people rally around a wrecker.

Fascinating question. Historically, a society's myths and folktales would offer justifications for the social order. If you look at your own culture, ...

It sounds like my words bounced off your consciousness and left no trace. But I'll tell you a story. There was a guy who recently spent a whole mornin...

That's your personal issue, though. I don't think anyone else has that problem.

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Right. Moral realists say statements about morality report facts. The fact we're looking for here is not that people say X is wrong. The fact has to b...

It's been explained repeatedly that in the context of this thread moral realism is more than truth aptness.

But aren't you alive because of antibiotics? I am.

That's what I'm saying. Take an animal to Australia and the situation gets all bent out of frame. It's probably something mystical.

If you take two rabbits to Australia, you'll eventually have billions of them. What's going on there?

To what?

No. My tongue isn't swollen anymore but the skin on the palms of my hands is peeling off. Jees!

A lot of deer are killed on the side of the road and they're perfectly edible. I will take your advice with the pangolin-free glue and send the roadki...

I don't think that was it.

Oh, I guess you're right. Error theory is that all talk of moral realism is in error, right?

I'm totally irrelevant.

Or even moral nihilism.

They look like they're constantly surprised.

I told my mom to give me an envelope so I could send my leftovers to China, where all the starving people apparently were. I'm presently sitting in th...

Moral statements being truth apt doesn't entail moral realism. If I hold that the truth predicate merely serves a social function, I can accept the tr...

A moral realist can believe that and be deflationist. The point is, she started out a moral realist. She did not arrive there by way of argumentation....

What if humans evolved from pigeons and so we eat by pecking on the ground, but also shitting all over the place?

Nobody said moral statements aren't truth apt. The problem is that's doesn't lead to the moral realism as a conclusion if you're a deflationist.