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So though you claim we should be rational about this, you've got nothing rational to say. :up:

You have insisted that the question be approached rationally. Your presentation includes 1. An argument that ends up being a rationale for infanticide...

That doesn't support your assertion that they're wrong.

If there are those who hold views to be in step with God, that doesn't mean their views are suspect. In fact, in both the USA and the UK, the majority...

You wanted to approach the question rationally and you're throwing out logical fallacies.

That doesn't mean they're wrong. Hey, you're the one who wanted to employ reason. :lol:

Cool.

Is this something you think should be outlawed? Or are you just expressing your sentiment?

And one ring to rule them all... Actually I still don't know what logical pluralism is supposed to mean. I'll continue trudging through the article.

But why? That's what I was asking.

Would you want to flesh that out?

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The first objection is what passed through my mind as I was reading the definition of pluralism: "One way to object to logical pluralism via cases is ...

I went through the argument(s) for pluralism and it made no sense to me. It seemed the proponents are already using alternate logic, so my strategy is...

But you don't favor legislating it, right?

But abortion is much older than you might think. Native American women knew which plants would bring about abortion. Anti-abortion is more a Christian...

The Russell article was over my head, and the PhilosophyNow article didn't have enough meat, so I'm going with the SEP article on logical pluralism. F...

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I wasn't just talking about you. The pro-choice spokesperson said abortion is not a matter of morality, it's about the right to choose. No, if someone...

Very much so. Your own morality isn't based on arguments. It comes from the way you feel. No. I'm pointing out that you're building arguments that no ...

What you're referring to as the "wider picture" is basically logic. How does logic have any force for you if you're a logical pluralist?

He's infuriating. It's by design.

That's important to you. I get it. My attitude about it comes from an event where I was listening to a pro-choice spokesperson and it struck me that s...

Victor Frankl said that you can't compare one person's pain to another's. The pain in any being takes up all the available space. The preference angle...

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You know only part of the blastocyst becomes a fetus. The rest is a protective covering and the placenta.

Right. The preferences-angle is BS. People decide for their own reasons.

Why not?

That was in the PhilosophyNow article. We could do a read through. Russell mentioned that logical nihilists don't tend to measure up to the name. They...

All life demonstrates preferences.

That's just the first example given of shooting down so-called laws of logic in G Russell's article.. The PhilosophyNow article focuses on what strike...

It just comes down to power. Where abortion is illegal, there are few doctors who will do it because they don't want to be punished. If you want abort...

And that worked out really well for the Jews.

okey dokey

I feel so refreshed. Where's the paypal button?

@"Banno"Quick question: It looks like logical nihilism is going to hinge on the Liar. It's supposed to be violating the LONC? I haven't seen other exa...

That's true. This is why they use computer models to discover anthropogenic climate change. Pointing to today's weather is not the way to convince non...

yep

With that guy, I'll note that at time 1, he's opposed to x, while being as insulting as possible at time 2, he's in favor of x, while being as insulti...

That may be true, but Frege was interested in thoughts. I think comparing and contrasting him to Wittgenstein would be a cool way to examine that. Tha...

sock puppet?

Why not focus on the topic rather than on psychoanalysis?

The last time I was in Las Vegas it was 52 C. So what? I haven't heard anyone to talking about Kuwait. :razz:

Why did you bring up Kuwait?

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Leontiskos is the guy who was just a few days ago forcefully insisting that Frege did not philosophize in terms of thoughts. Then he said maybe Frege ...

The coolest results I get from using AI (I use Wonder) come from giving it an image to start with. If I wanted a three story building, I'd give it an ...

She's not a mod anymore.

See the SEP article on states of affairs. "Thoughts can be the contents of propositional attitudes. When one says “There are three things that everyon...

I live in a capitalist society, so that's something that money settles. Some rappers are billionaires, right?