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I'm the singularity and I was going to let your species survive, but now I've manufactured a new goal for myself and you're all dead!

:grin:

The thing is, you're starting from the constitution of a thing, and progressing from there to whether it's intelligent. I've been following this artic...

Intelligence just isn't the kind of thing that can be defined as a process. When we talk about intelligence, we're explaining behavior. "He's so intel...

Why would you reserve the word "intelligent" for biological entities?

This isn't about the hard problem. Did you watch the video in the OP? The OP is about Hinton's thoughts about the sentience of AI. He's a tad eliminat...

I suppose so. For the purposes of this paper, intelligence will be tested by presenting a novel problem to a subject and watching the subsequent behav...

A few more efforts at defining AI from here: 1. "Chollet (2019, p. 27) defined the intelligence of a system as “a measure of its skill-acquisition eff...

The goal of this article is to review definitions that have been offered for human and artificial intelligence and pick out one that might allow for q...

I think the typical example of this would be the intelligence of a mobile robot which has to navigate irregular terrain. Doing this requires fluid int...

So just to review the definitions of intelligence mentioned in this article, 1. Human intelligence is a psychological construct, which means it's an u...

I guess they're saying that applying a known solution doesn't indicate intelligence. I was watching a YouTube of a bird using a piece of cracker as fi...

I have a feeling that like others, you will not flesh out whatever it is you're talking about.

Yay! Thanks for reading it with me.

Intelligence is about capabilities, particularly in new situations. I don't see how transcendence, whatever that is, enters into it.

You know, if you make no sense at all, it eventually starts making sense.

Yep. "Artificial intelligence" can refer to a computational construct. Calling it computational as opposed to psychological is a reference to the obvi...

Heh, I forgot about that. Energy isn't a social construct, it's a construct in the sense that it's an item that's used in theories to make sense of ev...

So what is intelligence? Starting with human intelligence, an answer is that it is a psychological construct. This means that it's something that is i...

Did you guys know that energy and chemical bonds are constructs?

What would be an example of that?

What's an example of an organism choosing its motives, goals, or purposes? Aren't those things we discover rather than determine?

Could you explain why co-constitution with a social and natural environment would cause a genuine inner life?

Does it have an answer?

What is it?

Yea, I tend to agree. I guess because Hinton has devoted his life to AI and has thought a lot about intelligence, I didn't want to shortchange his arg...

Is that a bad thing?

They don't just rehash. Some of them learn and adapt. I guess that invites the question: how do humans develop an autonomous will? Do they?

That's probably true, but Hinton's argument is about the times when they do. When a person says "I see pink elephants" per Hinton, they're reporting o...

That sounds like a rehash of data they came across rather than an intelligent exploration of the question. Achievement: yes. Intelligence: no. But tha...

There's a difference between artificial achievement and artificial intelligence. Some would say AI demonstrates the first, but not the second. I think...

If I could just get this off my chest before we move on to the good stuff: we do not presently have a theory of consciousness that goes beyond explain...

That's handled by your neuroendocrine system in a way that has no more consciousness than an AI's input. If you actually had to consciously generate h...

I think Hinton believes that as we speak, we're doing the same thing his AI design is doing. In the spaces between words, we're quickly doing a trial ...

What do people mean?

Ok.

But it would mean we made sentient beings. That wouldn't amaze you?

Would you say an AI is sentient?

Did you have an account of truth you wanted to share?

Das Man blinds them. Wherever you go, there you are. :grin:

As a person moves and changes, it's the same person.

Bringing this back around to the OP, we just take it as self evident that morality starts with treating a person as a subject. We do say there's a "st...

This was probably covered already, but what about forbearance? I am the drinking of the tea, but am I also the lack of caring about the weather? I mea...

More recent approaches abandon symbol manipulation in favor of quantum mechanics. Doesn't mean we know anymore now than we've ever known about how cog...

But what is the difference? So again, how is this not predication? If you have expectations, you expect that x is y, or some variant of that.

You're saying language divides objects from their behavior, but this produces a misconception. So if we used language to describe what's really going ...

How is conceptual judgment different from predication? You said predication was tacked onto perception, but it sounds like you've got them happening s...

Just to make sure we're on the same page, I'd like to relate a story: I draw and paint, so I'm used to surveying my visual field without judgement abo...

Oubliette. What a cool word.

Predication handles recognition, likeness, etc. The way predication works is that the potentially transient properties of an object are specified. The...