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Sigh. Ok. Adios.

That fits with what Warhol was. When technology gives people more time, they don't use it to relax, they use it to go faster, get more stuff done, run...

How so?

Do you mean how can one discover or learn what truth is without previously knowing it?

If you see that I'm tripping up on the fundamentals, tell me you think so, even if I think you're being a jerk for saying it. My ego will heal. I'll b...

Could you say more about that?

I'm not being a jerk here, Isaac. I'm telling you that you have problems with super basic logic. Do what you will with that.

:razz: It's true, though.

Do you mean that science is the way the universe comes to know itself?

I went through an Andy Warhol stage. I started putting empty coffee bags on the kitchen wall and had a moment where I "got it." It's not exactly that ...

Good point. Naturalism ends up being dependent on dualism to express what it rejects. The Naturalist binds herself to conclusions with no theory leadi...

Yes. "Mind" acts as a rigid designator.

But the universe is expanding. What is it expanding into if there's a limit?

No. Just no. Proceed to whatever source of insight you trust and start over.

Holy shit. You're right.

In order to rule out souls, we would need evidence that contradicts their existence. This is deduction. It's an application of the law of non-contradi...

All the seats for southern congressmen and senators were vacant when the 13th Amendment was passed. The Reconstruction Act required the South to ratif...

OK.

The coordinate system itself is not a product of fiat. I just said that.

Lincoln used the Constitutional War Power of the President to free the slaves. That was clearly not what War Power was meant for (to make a decision t...

Why? My point was that what's meant by "absolute" is that it's mind-independent or some such. Independent of any human's choice. It's just about ontol...

I don't think so. Lauding the will of the people never stopped an Adolph Hitler from launching a holocaust. I think that's mainly because the mob is a...

A thing is stationary if we declare it be.

I was driving along listening to Never Goodbye from Max Richter's Hostiles. A scene of the sort the Hubble telescope makes came to mind and I realized...

True. But the revolution was fueled by a breakdown in trust in the righteousness of the British government. See Patrick Henry's words about how it hap...

I think all this stuff is decreasing confidence in the government, which might be a good thing.

All those things grew organically out of their times. Cubism, like Surrealism, was about discovering and presenting the truth. Cubism said become free...

You can just declare a thing to be stationary, the earth for instance. All other motion is relative to the earth. The "absolute" part is meant to take...

I see.

Historical? It's just that the local crafts store and automation have made given tons if us the time to copy rembrandts and so he doesn't seem so divi...

No. You explained your curiosity by pointing to other online commmunities and something about rigor. What's the connection?

In honor of @"Banno" I have to ask who cares?

Jon Stewart said something like that when Trump was first elected, not re: fox news, but rather talk radio. He said there was an accumulated effect of...

No, I didn't. :up:

I think we'll part ways here. I think we have the same impression of one another: "You're not understanding Quine." Yet neither of us is invested enou...

Well said.

How does correspondence survive Quine's Word and Object? Since Quine was a behaviorist, I think we enter into a shadow-world of equivocation when we t...

ok

I said that Quine makes no room for degrees in his dismissal of the analytic/synthetic divide. You seemed to disagree and treat my statement as a clai...

Yes, but the post you drew my question from was about aesthetics. I mentioned the Nixon/Kennedy TV appearance and Reagan. I was assessing charisma. Ho...

Because instead and standing beside me to assess the landscape, you directed a sermon at me. Instead of noting how people think and act, you signalled...

I understand. I think a fair number of people think in terms of advocation or perhaps think their political leanings say something about who they are ...

Only 53% of Sanders supporters say they would definitely support an alternate Democratic candidate per Newsweek. Which side of that split are you on?

Fine. He's the all American boy. He's still dividing the Democratic party.

So you point to the word "blurring" and mention of a knowledge spectrum from particular to abstract. And further, you note that Quine seemed to unders...

You're putting a lot of weight on the meaning of "blurring." The reason that's weird in reference to Quine is that he was a full-blown behaviorist. Hi...

Me too.

Stop pretending to be American. It's annoying.

True. Quine is killing empiricism in Two Dogmas by rejecting the analytic/synthetic divide. There's no "matter of degree" to it.

I definitely might be wrong. There's an aspect to contemporary politics that is purely aesthetic. We refer to NIxon and Kennedy appearing on televisio...