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This substitution failure results from the fact that the number of planets isn't a rigid designator. It's a singular definite description.

I agree. But I would say that if my interlocutor had been Kierkegaard or Nietzsche or Heidegger or Plato, etc., a fairly fascinating discussion might ...

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I agree that it's not my job to tell other people what kind of relationship they should have to religion, but somewhere short of actually getting offe...

He's not?

This got me wondering if I'm homo religiosus or not. In my case, it's not that I crave to flee from the concrete, it's more that my homebase is in tim...

I betcha I know more about Christianity than you do. Let's quiz each other and you have to answer without looking it up. You first.

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Yes. Kierkegaard said that faith is like floating in water that is 70,000 fathoms deep. Sometimes having faith in yourself defies all logic.

That wasn't very Christian, Timothy.

That would make it more difficult, yes. :razz:

It's ineffable, but it's totally logical?

What does?

So Augustine claims the Trinity is beyond human understanding. Which part did he think was incomprehensible?

Deep in our hearts, the light of God is shining On a soundless sea with no shore ---- Rumi

I disagree.

I don't believe Augustine thought of the Trinity as something humans can understand. In other words, the tools used to deny contradiction, person and ...

Does anybody want to take a shot at this question? If it's illogical, does that mean it's impossible? Or would limiting the world to my own concepts b...

That's what I thought. This is why you think drawing attention to the logic of the Trinity is an attack on Christianity: because you think if God is a...

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This is me and Hanover riding around trying to convert people to Mormonism. https://www.latterdaysaintmissionprep.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/mormo...

Do you believe that anything that defies logic is impossible?

Right. There were versions of Christianity that didn't hold Jesus to be God, but they didn't survive.

As @"Count Timothy von Icarus" pointed out, it's heresy to suggest that God is a category that the three hypostases belong to, as dogs, cats, and mice...

Set me straight then.

It's odd that you think a straightforward account of Catholic doctrine is an attack on Christianity. smh

Well, it is true.

That's the Trinity, dude.

I'm curious how far some will go trying to make sense of it. :grin:

Oh I see! Thanks for explaining that.

Someone told me Russian speech pervasively pictures properties as external things, impinging on the subject, where in German, the speaker owns the pro...

The Trinity is a mystery. It's three persons, each of which is fully God. I think you're trying to waffle on whether it's a contradiction or not. I'm ...

Freemasons were. Their belief system was Neoplatonic. As you may know, many of the founders of the USA were Freemasons. When you talked about shifting...

Hegel's roots were Neoplatonic, which is the philosophy Christianity is built on. Maybe he was instrumental in bringing it back to the academic scene,...

Maybe. Likewise, the four gospels correspond to the four elements. Matthew is earth, Mark is fire, Luke is air, and John is water. This, multiplied by...

They aren't models of the Trinity period. It may be that Pierce read Augustine, but the notion that his philosophy should be understood in the context...

I think you're saying phenomenology is a kind of fraud. I think it is in some cases, but ontology is an empty building in my mind. Nobody lives there,...

So the world is like a movie. Notice that there is no motion in a movie. It's just one picture after another. X only seems to move from place to place...

For Heidegger, the phenomenology of Being starts with recognizing the psyche's response to the concept of nothingness, which he describes as a dread. ...

Right. That would help explain how a person could talk about profession as if it's an essential property. This contrasts with transient states like co...

If I refer to Parmenides, the philosopher, then my reference will only pick out people who are philosophers. Parmenides, the philosopher is a philosop...

I don't see how that works, though. Augustine explains in De Trinitate, that the sum of the Son and the Father is not greater than the Holy Spirit. In...

Philosopher isn't metaphysically necessary to Parmenides, but if I refer to Parmenides, the philosopher, it would appear that anyone who isn't a philo...

It means to be inclined toward luxury

Waking from a dream. Rising to the surface as a sun, exhaling streams of light Making the world Is a loveless job

Do you think of life as having to do with freedom and power? I mean, algae don't really have either one, do they? I think life is more about an organi...

Would it?

Yep

Right. We could pick a point in the steam and build a frame of reference around it so that the surrounding landscape is in motion around the stream. T...