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We will find a way. We'll respond to natural events with ingenuity and grace. Mostly. It takes all kinds. Big events are produced by hundreds of milli...

In what context do we give a shit how it's seen by some?

I think most of us would agree that the global scene is something that evolved naturally. We're all products of it, so in a sense we're all dependent ...

I think it might be a little of both. People like Gates, Bezos, and Jack Ma were each lucky, but they certainly knew what to do with their luck. But t...

I totally didn't understand that. :razz: I need to do some more research.

Autopsies aren't routine in the US. They only do them if the family wants it or there's some other good reason. Nobody wants to examine the body of so...

Could you explain about information in physics? Is it related to information theory? Or is it a whole different thing?

Chomsky says they aren't organized, but behave as if they are. Human nature on display?

I use a shiver-shooter.

Yes. This thread started by collecting ideas about qualia that make it easier to attack. People do that when they're less interested in exploring and ...

In Descartes' time there was very little freedom of thought. The Church decided what kinds of problems could and couldn't be pondered. Literally, they...

We should talk about multiple realizability. That's the stuff that hammers home that some aspects of consciousness have to be emergent. More later..

I think you're interpreting ”qualia" as "sensory data." I'm aware that when I tell the story about standing before a tree, "green" and "shape" are als...

Is non-reductive physicalism a form if Cartesian dualism?

I don't think you need to worry about reining in the democrats. If they go too far, it will be corrected by the swinging if the pendulum. Just vote fo...

I apologise for questioning your profession. I hadn't actually read many if your posts. But I have the same question: I have long believed that cultur...

So you dont know what a p-zombie is either. Um. Have a nice day. :up:

Again, for emphasis.

Since you don't seem to know the difference between Hilton and Davis, I'm not convinced you have a field. In neuroscience though, nobody thinks people...

Darwin was very warmly received.. I think you'll find your view is absent in scientific communities and the world in general. Dennett doesn't even tak...

A coke and a smile. :up:

This question is nonsensical and possibly communist.

yes, that.

If I only had a brain. Why do we need the concept of experience? Uh, it comes up from time to time.

”Tell me Mr. Deckard, did you ever take that test yourself?"

I'm just spinning in the void shooting out woo tangents like lighting bolts

It's just experience. Plain and simple. Nothing more. Nada. It is experience.

It's experience, Janus. It's not complicated.

He's giving you reasons to doubt that other people have qualia. Hopefully you'll connect the dots and realize you can doubt what appears evident to yo...

Did you read the essay?

Yeah I may have been a little melodramatic there.

Yep. I agree with those who say you don't really understand an issue unless you can argue either side.

I think one of the confusions in this thread is that Dennett was directly attacking some commonly accepted understanding of qualia, so that he expecte...

I think you'd have to look to context of use. In cases where qualia is being talked about, some of the posters here would understand, some would under...

We could probably do it if somebody would paste in half of War and Peace.

Nice cartoon idea. "I live for pleasure!" *attempts suicide*

Echoing what Daemon said earlier, your view has consequences in the realm of morality. If we ask what it's like to be a rape victim, the answer would ...

It just appears that you're saying we can be fairly confident that a silent patient is not in pain.

So you would explain the law in terms of the range of words uttered, not in terms of the subject experiencing the same pain.

You seem to be thinking of qualia as little ghosts. I was introduced to the idea at around 12 years old when I started reading sci-fi in earnest. The ...

Too tired to look it up, it may be Davis' law is about the superhighway and Hilton's is about generalization of pain, unilateral to bilateral, then al...

Ok

So there was a phenomenal aspect and then there wasn't?

hate blows a bubble of despair into hugeness world system universe and bang -fear buries a tomorrow under woe and up comes yesterday most green and yo...

We can equip a computer with an electric eye and program it to acknowledge in memory every time it detects something that reflects red light. In this ...

It comes from a particular formulation of cadmium, so there's an external standard as with the frequency middle-c. So maybe like the power of suggesti...

Pain is already a broad category like color. There's a long list of types of physical and psychic pain. Pain is especially prone to being part of an e...

Do you have time to explain more about how that relates? Still, I need to know if it's sharp or dull, burning or electrical, rate it from 0 to 10, etc...

Ok. I take it you didn't really have a point to make there.

Experience is like a symphony. Pulling single notes out will be lossy because of the way the parts influence each other. Is that what you mean?