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Mmm, I love the taste of irony, don't you? Unimaginatively fixating on present status of personhood, as if that were the be-all and end-all.

Obviously there's the other thing, whatever you choose to call it.

What do you mean, "finally"? I've never denied that we need some facts, or rather knowledge of them, to get by. I'm not a complete idiot. And that's w...

Tell me about it. My boss told me yesterday that until recently he had planned on "binning me", in part because out there in the real world I have a t...

Evidently, not everyone needs "the facts" to live life and prosper. Obviously you need some facts, but mysticism isn't all or nothing. Maybe you just ...

Fuck it, screw the foolhardy masses who voted to leave. Let's work towards reversing it in a way that'll minimise the fallout.

It's so much easier to repeat a sound bite than to explain why you think that something is a misinterpretation. If you're suggesting that it's a false...

That was brilliant. :clap:

It makes more sense wording it that way, but very far from perfect. To make sense of valuing life, there must be something about life that one finds v...

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That makes no sense. Perhaps try wording what you mean differently. That's just a description, not a purpose. Perhaps try looking up the meaning of "p...

Absolute nonsense. Not only is it possible, there are plenty of people who value mysticism and live their lives in accordance with mysticism. What you...

I don't know. I'm never without my ego.

I'm at least ten times as tall if you include the size of my ego.

The Internet.

And be sarcastic as much as humanly possible, although it'll be lost on someone like me, because I have Asperger's syndrome.

No one wears a beard. No one ever has. They either have a beard or they don't, and they wear things like a hat or a jumper. Therefore I win.

Who else read it in that voice? (If you didn't, you're either doing it now or you don't get the reference).

Good idea. Now why didn't I think of that? It might well seem clear to you, but you have failed to provide a reasonable basis for believing that there...

Thanks. It's kind of funny, because despite appearances, this is what they're effectively doing: "I value mysticism! Mysticism makes me happy!". "I di...

No u.

These kind of arguments seem kind of fruitless to me. People can and do live different lives from each other, can and do feel differently about things...

He started it. :naughty:

There wouldn't be any of significance, as I've just suggested. I made a distinction between what is or isn't the case, and what we know. A big discove...

The metaphysics, in itself, is insignificant. It's our knowledge that matters. Or at least matters more.

Indeed. There is not an "essence" of dignity to be found in anyone or anything. The other group can only be "wrong" relative to a set of prioritised v...

Would you stop mindlessly repeating this hasty generalisation? A hasty generalisation is a fallacy in which a conclusion is not logically justified by...

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Triggered.

Huh?

I'm more on your side, at least in a sense, than the strong atheist on that one, provided the existence of God is at least a possibility. But the "nos...

No, I throw rocks at you because I'm a bigger jerk then you'll ever be. :razz: (And I take everything literally because I'm King of the Aspies).

Do you even know what claim you're disputing? Apparently not. What I said was that scientific fact says there's no basis, per the science, for belief,...

But the universe wasn't defined that way in the argument. Do you think that it's implied somewhere that the universe is natural? What definition are y...

Depends what counts as controlling. I don't agree with prevention, except for medical reasons. However, there are certainly ethical grounds for discou...

You sound like you know what you're talking about, so you must be part of "Project Fear".

Bears repeating.

Then why the heck have you been quoting figures relating to trade and profit? Have you completely lost your mind? This guy... For many, it was ideolog...

:grin: Strong and stable, 'nother fable. Maybe not the best of sources. But we agree that there are credible sources out there which confirm what I'm ...

Well durr! Of course you judge them to be bad. So do I! That's because of the criteria we use for judgement, which is based on our values, which are b...

Of course they can be considered good things by some people. They can be considered good things by some people regardless of whether or not there's an...

I'm not convinced as yet that it's worth the effort of engaging with to such an extent. You know when you look over a post and think to yourself, "Oh ...

I don't think that you're quite comprehending where our disagreement lies, and I'm doubting that this back and forth dialogue is going to work out wel...

I know, right? Her posts are too long and rambling, and full of disordered thinking and wishy washy notions. Lacking in succinctness, lacking in subst...

Yes, I wasn't being that specific. I meant these sorts of issues about these kinds of judgement. This would just be one example.

That's not how this works. If you want to continue this exchange, then you'll have to put in a lot more effort. Otherwise I'll bring it to an end. If ...

The burden doesn't lie with me. What? Do you know what a bald assertion is? How am I supposed to explain how except by saying that they fit the descri...

So...? I don't see the supposed relevance of that to what I said. Oh god. Those are some big assumptions from you. To be clear, we're talking about et...

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