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In conclusion, idealists of the sort that Metaphysician Undercover is are extremely unreasonable, or at least he makes an extremely unreasonable case ...

Yes, they do, and that's obviously irrelevant, but you fail to see that. It's probably obvious to those who aren't wearing blinkers, and aren't unreas...

That poll should be multiple choice, not that that's currently an option here given the forum software, even if you wanted it to be. I would vote for ...

Any time, sweet cheeks. :kiss: Now, time to order an extra large pizza. I have to start somewhere, otherwise I'll never be a beautiful butterfly or be...

Preemptive strike them with the best that you've got. Throw rocks, throw your own feaces, throw your little old nan if you have to. Can you get hold o...

One primary purpose of education should be to kick the stupid out of people. If you've gone through a process whereby you've had the stupid kicked out...

Like New York? That's a state of living persons, and I know where it's located. It's in Russia. You know, the other Russia. Not the Russia with a bald...

Yes. ( :lol: )

That's just what they want you to think. Members of this noble forum, if you elect me as your supreme leader, I will implement these proposals and mor...

You didn't answer my question. I guess this means that you couldn't figure it out, and that I must explain it to you. The reason I consider the point ...

Okay, maybe @"Terrapin Station" has gone too far. I don't find it necessary to make his argument about brain states and locations. Morality is what's ...

We should have a committee, lead by me, to determine whether favouritism has skewed the results, who's responsible, and what actions are to be taken i...

Maybe because it's me, and I'm like a gadfly. A gadfly that doesn't just sting the horses, but makes fun of them, and speaks bluntly and sarcastically...

Then I would have explained why I consider that to be an irrelevant point. Can you think of why I might consider that point to be irrelevant? Or do I ...

Yes. When I said that we don't "really" disagree, I meant that it was merely a semantic disagreement. Ooh, lar de dar. :lol: It's called an analogy. D...

Yeah, why aren't people speaking up? Speak up, people! Don't just vote and remain silent! Sheesh. What's the matter? Cat got your tongue? At present, ...

Not my exceptional talent, that's for sure. :grin: I don't have the ability to pin what I've written to the top of the front page. I would need a gura...

I made that same point about the requirement of an additional principle as well, and that its application is a subjective matter. The objectivity I re...

:lol: Just a thought: maybe it would be helpful if you scrapped the figurative lingo? Is it necessary? Is it a hindrance to understanding?

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From that framework, it can be noted that "immoral" is determined conditionally, not unconditionally; and also that it's relative, not absolute. That ...

I've engaged to the extent of analysing what you've said, and reaching the conclusion that it misses the point. What more do you reasonably expect of ...

Guys, the black-white distinction fails. You see, some things are black, and some things are white. Believe it or not, some things are even black and ...

Predictable reaction. Okay, let's take me out of it then, because I suspect that your bias is now interfering. Presumably, you'd want a reasonable per...

Oh the irony. I'm going to speak bluntly and reply that I don't particularly care about what you're saying, unless you can show that it's of relevance...

The way that we talk about it, and the way that we interpret the way that we talk about it, is definitely of importance, and I don't think that @"Bann...

Do you want to draw this out, then? I think that if we do, it can be shown that you're making an error somewhere in relation to what I'm saying or sug...

Already been answered. Banno is making an argument from repetition fallacy.

Yes, and with the latter, you're ignoring - perhaps deliberately - the importance of the sense in which different people use "wrong" in that context. ...

So we have the blue cup and the broken pup. The blue cup is blue, and the broken pup is broken. I accept that, and so does everyone else. Now, how is ...

I don't think that we really disagree here, but I think that what you say could be better worded. It's better put that in cases where one doesn't unde...

Easily explainable under subjective moral relativism. Firstly, reject "good" except as relative to a subjective standard of judgement, since "good" in...

Indeed. I thought that meaning is use. I'm pretty sure that plenty of people are still using that phrase in the technical sense. Sounds like melodrama...

Okay. So it's not relevant that I am killing a puppy for fun as we speak? After all, what I do doesn't count.

So, because lots of people share moral feelings, and thus moral judgement, on certain issues, then if we stick two people in a room together, then the...

Really? That's the lesson you're taking from this? Not that you ought to be more helpful, but that it's my fault for trying to get you to be more help...

Actually, calling them one-liners might be a mistake. I don't mean by that term to suggest that you're being witty. I just mean by that term to sugges...

Mentioning something isn't sufficient. Where's your demonstration of that conclusion? Let's take my feeling that kicking puppies is wrong. It can't be...

It can't be both simultaneously, in the same sense, and in the same respect. That's what I meant. Do you doubt that?

Shame. It would've made for a nice bit of collective humour with a moral to the story.

If goodness is not subjective, which you're using here to mean hidden, or a question of feeling, then it must be objective, which would be public, or ...

I don't recall defining goodness. At least not in any way relevant to Moore's argument. Someone will have to show me where I've allegedly done that. I...

Then tie them together for me. I'm not seeing how this is supposed to tie together and lead somewhere relevant. Here's a reminder of how our discussio...

And what did you have for breakfast today? Eggy weggs? What I had for breakfast was a nice bowl of the original topic is meta-ethics and we hadn't pro...

I don't think you did, but never mind. So you're saying that goodness is a thing that's conceived of that's not linguistic? I have said that it's a co...

I think I've already made that very clear, if we assume a usual context, but that this is an unusual context, because it seems to me that, with you, I...

I can't. He's dead.

Have we not met? :wink:

All I did was ask you a few questions and express a few thoughts. You don't have to do anything you don't want to. No one has a gun to your head, do t...

So? They can think what they want. What matters is whether they're right. That's probably how they would see it from their perspective, yes. So? No, i...