There is no “point” to religion. Religions are not static and change over time. Some religions are more willing to acknowledge that change than others...
Sure, but my religion does agree with me. And has for a few thousand years. People’s inclination towards certainty isn’t new, but it doesn’t mean that...
Says the man who cites Ecclesiastes in support of salvation in the afterlife… 5For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and ...
He asked what these personalities had in common, not what these religions had in common. Taking Moses as a symbol for Judaism (which didn’t exist and ...
Do you mind finding a single quote of Moses where he talks about the afterlife? Or where he says, "You all must be dead before god will give you the l...
I'm neither, but here is a thought for the day: :heart: You are looking at a red heart. That statement may be interpreted (call it P) in a variety of ...
But meaning is use! And we can't ask what the words mean to us privately, but have to look at the contexts in which those words are used and the resul...
Would you please elaborate a bit on this? I can't tell if you are saying something tautological (eg "sacred" is a non-physical attribute or "sacred" i...
None of the people you are discussing hit upon the same idea. It is only by ignoring all of the substance of the various traditions around the mention...
Jesus is alleged to be of the house of Judah (which makes no sense, but whatever). Moses was adopted by the Pharaoh's daughter shortly after birth and...
For what it is worth… So like 1% of the world doesn’t fit into one of those buckets. Only 3 of the religions on Agent Smith’s list of major religions ...
No one said that they do. It is just that different people can utter the same proposition. To the extent that proposition is true when uttered, it doe...
Same slip again. What is true is independent of what is believed. One can assert the truth of a statement that is true. It doesn't matter if that pers...
This is the part that needs some firmer footing. Can A know X and B not know X? Does B not knowing X change X's truth? How does A's epistemic warrant ...
The whole exercise steps off on the wrong foot. People lived long before governments existed and even longer before rights theory was invented. So peo...
Do you mind elaborating a bit on this? A: Has sufficient epistemic warrant to know X. B: Was told by A that X is true, but lacks sufficient epistemic ...
The vogue is to get over being fart-sniffing atheists (new or otherwise) and just be malcontented nihilists playing at absurdists telling everyone tha...
We could be, but how would that help your page count? I think at least two more rounds of "Grouping Christians is..." and "I'm not not grouping Christ...
I failed to notice or you wrote “given that” which isn’t quite the conditional you suggest it to be? Also you pluralized both Christians and Muslims, ...
For what it is worth, Christianity is not Judaism (whatever that is) as understood/modified by Jesus, but rather the followers of Paul. So reading the...
So I shouldn't say that I am American? Or a person? Or a man? Or middle-aged? Or...? Hell, my body is but a bunch of cells, some of which I am proud o...
l The Bible doesn't do anything, Banno, people do. I can use the Bible to support my ethical arguments or I can use my ethical arguments to support th...
Isaac, the fellow who thought the Bible was written in English? If that was his point - that language must be understood within a language community -...
By the by @"Banno", I find it amusing that people who keep cherry picking quotes from the Bible to show it is shitty are accusing people who say "But ...
That we lack a unitary meaning doesn't mean we don't have well developed conventions for how to understand things. Some interpretations are acceptable...
No one owed them obedience. It is like you aren't even trying. Read the book. Find textual support for your glib. If you can't, give it up. If you can...
What I've said is that people can read it however they want, but some readings have more or less support. My daughter saying, "You said 'You shouldn't...
There is no one true faith or one interpretation. I can't be any clearer. Tell me what words you want me to use that will make you understand that we ...
No. The Bible was not a universal code and it anticipates the people Israel living in a world with many nations not subject to their local war god's r...
That is odd. You are saying that I dismissed something by pointing you to the fact that other people will dismiss you? You have yet to offer a third w...
Since you put this question so starkly I'm going to give everyone a quick Biblical lesson. God made people and gave some laws for all people (known as...
Point me to it. I try to respond directly and am willing to re-read (and read anew) a fair amount. If I am asking you for the courtesy of directing me...
Just because @"Banno" says something doesn't make it so. I think religious beliefs, claims, interpretations, etc. are to be evaluated in the same exac...
The article misses a bunch, I think. I am happy to discuss it more, but it strikes me as far afield of this conversation. Suffice it to say that “soci...
You want to dictate what Christians think based upon your reading of the Bible, but you don’t even know what you said within a few posts in this conve...
This is a bit like going in a circle. The audience that already finds the book meaningless finds it meaningless (or even evil). You don’t have to talk...
No you didn’t and it’s not in English, but translation will suffice. Read the first story and show me the babies put to the sword. Or the second or th...
This is one of those comments that sounds really good to someone that thinks of religion as that which is left over after everything else is carved aw...
This is one of those things that you can’t understand without having done it or being around those who encourage you to do so. It is sort of like your...
This is without argument and a case envisioned by Lewis. The trickier part is that when someone says to you "I worship Hitler" and you do not know the...
This part is off for a number of reasons, but the most obvious in this context is that Lewis is addressing whether he (and those like him) ought admir...
This bit is a huge failing of people unstudied in religion and I'm not sure why it keeps being repeated here. If Christianity (love it or leave it) is...
It is Abraham that reproaches god for going to kill a bunch of innocent people in Sodom. Abraham, as a Biblical character worthy of emulation, models ...
And for what it is worth… It is for people to demand justice even from god, not to sit idly by the blood of their neighbor. So from my perspective, it...
I couldn’t say. You and I agree, however, on the main point - people who believe something that is evil is good can be judged for both their belief in...
A guy gives an example of obviously abhorrent dispositions and you don't want to judge. I can't fathom why. What value is advanced by refraining from ...
No, Nazis are judge by their beliefs. Granted, if there is no behavior manifesting their belief (speech or action), you wouldn't know what their belie...
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