I am not a deontologist either; so I can appreciate that. By the principle of PDE, I am referring to a generally applicable moral principle. There mig...
Accidents are never intentional; but evolution doesn't operate on accidents. Saying it is "intentional", "purposeful", etc. is tricky with non-agency;...
Upon thinking about it more, I updated the OP: now it resembles the traditional PDE. Couple updates to note: 1. My PDE no longer mandates anything as ...
What you just described is the idea of over-taxation and its mitigation/eradication being manifested into society through action; which is impossible ...
I believe, if I am understanding you correctly, Aristotle would say it is always learned; because virtuous activity is never on accident. Aristotle th...
You too, brother. It is always a joy conversing with you (: Very true, indeed; and this is why I had to be more specific with my PDE in the OP than th...
It was captivating and a fun little read, but I am unsure as to what the underlying tropes and ideas were supposed to be (and maybe that's just me mis...
This is impossible: society is based off of social constructs, which are ideas people have had—ideas through action (at a minimum). Human beings devel...
Within my formulation, I think it would be obligatory; because, as you noted, my version compares the bad side effects of each foreseeable means (towa...
Design and purpose are inextricably linked, and can be used to two ways: the intentionality of an agent and the expression thereof in something, or th...
I have created my own purpose of being good (to your point); and thereby commit myself to the purpose, which I have independently of my created purpos...
I am not a historian either, so perhaps I don’t either; but it seems pretty clear that society is like a wave, and the flow is marked out by someone (...
Nietzsche did not like the idea of happiness because he viewed it as anti-thetical to working on a noble project; but in a deeper sense "happiness" fi...
Nietzsche's moral philosophy is that there is no morality (in the traditional sense) but, rather, we create our own values and subject ourselves to ou...
I am getting a bit lost: I never suggested people should create their own purposes, so I am confused why you asking me about that. Am I missing someth...
Philosophical idealogies are the guiding forces behind societial norms; so I don’t know how you could think the roles are reversed. This thread was no...
Please outline where and why. I don't follow, and I don't want to go on a derailed spiel on Nietzschien ethics: I'd rather contend with whatever compl...
I think telos is still important today, and Aristotle was right to view everything through its lens. It is essential for living a wise life, because a...
Do you see how society is shifting towards viewing what is good as people just being autonomous...to the point of extremity? For example, there are mo...
Nietzschien thought did not take rise during or immediately after Nietzsche published his works; and I already conceded that now is arguably the best ...
CC: @"Count Timothy von Icarus", @"Lionino" By “moral decay” I mean that we are in a period of time where morality is being by-at-large supplanted wit...
I think it is a valid question, but Aristotle is on to something. The reason humans want to be happy is because it is the most intrinsically (positive...
The problem is that your question fundamentally makes no sense when taken as a whole: if it is just a question on "purely pragmatic" grounds, then the...
How can anyone answer this if you are precluding ethics from the discussion? Isn't this fundamentally an ethical question? This is vacuously true. Tha...
I just don't see how it is inchoate nor inconsistent nor (internally incoherent). The claim is simple: values are non-objective. Something matters onl...
I think I see the confusion now. My principle is really: This principle does not hinge on the direct vs. indirect distinction. To your point, I don't ...
No problem. I will do my best to summarize from my end. Our real dispute has finally been elevated to the surface, in complete clarity. I find it both...
This should be “moral judgments do not express something objective”. Moral subjectivists believe in moral facts (or at least some of them do): it is j...
No worries at all. PS: to mention people, you have to use the @ symbol followed by the person's username in double quotes (or use the @ button)(e.g., ...
Even under your characterization of the two, they are both intended effects. If you accept either Brock’s or Aquinas’ characterizations that you gave ...
No worries at all! As you know, I change my mind all the time :smile: . I commend your efforts to genuinely strive after the truth—which is a rare qua...
My argument is relatively simple: P1: It is morally impermissible to intentionally kill an innocent human being . P2: One intentionally kills an innoc...
I listened to it briefly, and it sounds promising. I will listen to the whole video sometime, but I don’t have the time right now. I would say, to cla...
I was just answering your question. Ultimately based off of what is Good; and how best to progress towards and preserve it. Actions are a part of bein...
I am not entirely understanding your critique for this part. Here’s a basic google definition: “have (a course of action) as one's purpose or objectiv...
I believe so (if I am understanding correctly). What you are saying is that, under my view, saving Charles and Dora is less important than not doing i...
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